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Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Headline is inaccurate, though I can't really blame the submitter. jawed occasionally makes comments on YouTube (example: [1]), but eventually hides everything but YouTube's first video from his channel (presumably so he can "make his first comment in X years" which then gets headlines).

[1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaOC9danxNo&lc=XBr2JHTM1EEDT3...

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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> Thats not the case if you registered for a google service (i.e. gmail) pre G+, which I imagine includes a TON of users. If you fall into this category (like me) and don't have a G+ account (i.e. a "Public Profile), you get spammed like crazy and constantly asked to join up. Right, because they're amalgamating the accounts. They've been telling people this forever. > And the service isn't free. I'm paying for it wit…

>No you're not. It's free. Nothing is free bro. Business 101. >Who said anything about creators. They /OWN/ Youtube. They have made it /VERY/ clear what is happening. If you want to ignore that that's up to you, but you can't turn around and act as if it's some inexplicable weird move that makes no sense when they have detailed every step of it. No one is saying its a weird move. I'm just arguing that the WAY they ar…

> Nothing is free bro. Business 101.

That's not a fact, that's just a saying. Youtube is free to you, it's not free to advertisers. There can be products that come free to some and not free to others.

> You shouldn't have to have a public profile or be forced to share your comment on youtube

You aren't, choose the option to create a page and your account name is kept, your identity is kept and the public page contains the same info as your Youtube profile. You can then switch between your two identities as you see fit. I fail to see how this is such an objectionable solution.

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Here's a simple way to improve YouTube. Turn off comments. I have never once, as far as I can remember, read a YouTube comment that was in any way, insightful or provided meaningful information that wasn't better obtained elsewhere. It is a cesspool, and the people who are complaining about needing to login to G+ to leave a comment frankly largely intersect with the set of people who are the problem. Honestly, if log…

> Turn off comments.

This is the purpose of one of my favorite browser add-ons: http://www.tannr.com/herp-derp-youtube-comments/

Available for Chrome, Firefox, Safari, and Opera.

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

#224

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I've never had this happen and I've had a YouTube account for a while. This honestly sounds like a bug of some sort. Have you found other people experiencing this?

I was hesitant to share this video[1] on HN, but I came upon this in my research when the same thing happened to me. [1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ccxiwu4MaJs Edit: NSFW- language/curse words.

For completeness sake, you should probably have posted her followup: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQSaGfsWamw

Turns out she was completely wrong about having lost her data, the UI was just confusing in such a way that she thought she had. Don't get me wrong, that kind of confusing UI is very much Google's Problem, but "confusing UI" and "lost all my videos" are _very_ different in magnitude.

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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The longer I use youtube while signed in, the more useless it becomes to me. I have a wide range of interests. If I'm watching the Dead Skeletons - Dead Mantra music video, it's not helpful to have 5 Starcraft 2 VODs in the recommended video list (i.e. I enjoy watching professional Starcraft 2). I'd much prefer recommendations similar to the Dead Skeletons. I've found no way to turn off this recommendation bubble and…

It's really goddamned frustrating and just shows how hollow google is as a company. They have search and ads, and an utter inability to actually build anything else or connect with a customer base. For a company this is like having cancer. It's astounding that they can ignore the situation to such a degree. Youtube is already an amazing force in the world, and that's with google half-assing so much of it. With enough…

"Google is chasing facebook when they should be chasing HBO, and amazon, and the discovery channel. It's like they live in a giant mansion with a huge lawn where a bunch of super talented people have been camping out for a while, trying to figure out how to make the next generation of video work. And everyday google gets out of bed, looks out over that scene, grunts, scratches its ass, thinks maybe they should just call the cops to get rid of the hooligans, then goes off to watch Judge Judy."

I really like the way you put that.

This is a result of perhaps super success at an early age (the founders), not enough hunger (to much money), hiring what you think are the best and the brightest (surprise - all those tests don't really work as our high achievers who designed them thought they would) and not recognizing the role of luck in your previous success. Used to be known in the past as becoming "fat and lazy" - I think that was the saying.

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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I've pretty much given up. Google has deleted my playlists and favorites countless times. Every time they try to integrate YouTube with one of their services/account management, I end up losing everything. My only consolation is that Google+ is accumulating a lot of vitriol and hate across the web. It's shaping up to be the most hated "social" product in the entire Internet.

"The most hated social product in the entire Internet" is a pretty big claim. I personally have never had a single problem with G+, though I've had plenty of issues with Facebook. My YouTube and G+ accounts merged just fine, and I've never lost a playlist, favorite, submission, comment, or anything else.

I like G+, nobody told me that I had to jump on the hate bandwagon

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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What happened to "don't be evil"? The criticism is a bit thick, but the prompts to join G+ are increasingly manipulative and gimmicky, designed almost entirely to _trick_ the user to into signing up + spamming their gmail contacts. A requirement to have G+ account to make youtube comments is just one part of a greater trend that includes: 1. Requiring a G+ account to review Android apps in the Play store 2. Cunningly…

> What happened to "don't be evil"?

That died long ago. In 2008 or even earlier, Google was capturing data from your WiFi router with their street view cars.

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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post #223

Here's a simple way to improve YouTube. Turn off comments. I have never once, as far as I can remember, read a YouTube comment that was in any way, insightful or provided meaningful information that wasn't better obtained elsewhere. It is a cesspool, and the people who are complaining about needing to login to G+ to leave a comment frankly largely intersect with the set of people who are the problem. Honestly, if log…

> Turn off comments. This is the purpose of one of my favorite browser add-ons: http://www.tannr.com/herp-derp-youtube-comments/ Available for Chrome, Firefox, Safari, and Opera.

Herp derp derp derp, Derp herp herp derp herp!

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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That way Google+ can claim 1 billion active users and say their service is a huge success, even surpassing their nemesis Facebook.

Google has claimed right from the beginning that they want G+ to be a "social layer" across all of their services, which could also be seen as a "social network", but not in the same way Facebook is a "social network.

To be fair, I think they shifted their messaging a little bit (vis-a-vis whether G+ was intended as a FB-style destination network or a social layer that happens to have a stream) to take advantage of the initial burst of interest/success in the actual social-network-stream part of Google+. But yea, there are plenty of people who are too stupid/disingenuous to understand the "social layer" concept they're going for even in cases where it's very straightforward.

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

#230

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My thoughts as well. If you're going to sell out, you should fully anticipate that "the man" will just gut your company & let it bleed out. Maybe they bought it to kill it off, etc.

But you should still have the right to be pissed off on a personal level.

Not really. You give up that right when you traded it in for a cool billion.

Users should maybe be more pissed at him for selling, than Google for tying Youtube to their overall Google strategy.

(Not that anybody should be pissed over such an issue. Just saying.)

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