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Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Although it may not be a popular opinion, here is the reason: there is only one Google (at least for social stuff) and one login system now.

Google plus is the "Google account" you need to use any of their social services.

I am frankly surprised that they allowed the login of their acquisitions to stay fragmented for such a long time.

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post #16

This isn't just to make commenting more social (i.e. pushing friends comments to the top)-- I imagine it's also largely to hold more people accountable for their comments (w/ their reputation) so that there aren't as many nonsense/flame/bigoted comments like there always have been on Youtube, and in turn get higher quality comments (e.g. Quora vs. Yahoo answers analogy)

> hold more people accountable for their comments (w/ their reputation)

This belief has been thoroughly debunked by Facebook comments. There's absolutely no reason to believe that Google+ will be any better, particularly since the ghost-town nature of G+ means people will rightly assume they can flame away and nobody they know will ever see it.

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post #77
post #20

I've pretty much given up. Google has deleted my playlists and favorites countless times. Every time they try to integrate YouTube with one of their services/account management, I end up losing everything. My only consolation is that Google+ is accumulating a lot of vitriol and hate across the web. It's shaping up to be the most hated "social" product in the entire Internet.

I hate Google+, I'm sending back my Nexus 5, it's useless without Google+.

What are the issues? I've been considering getting a Nexus 5, but I don't use any Google services (perhaps besides the Google Play store). Will it be a brick?

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post #77
post #20

I've pretty much given up. Google has deleted my playlists and favorites countless times. Every time they try to integrate YouTube with one of their services/account management, I end up losing everything. My only consolation is that Google+ is accumulating a lot of vitriol and hate across the web. It's shaping up to be the most hated "social" product in the entire Internet.

I hate Google+, I'm sending back my Nexus 5, it's useless without Google+.

If you bought an expensive smartphone-cum-tablet just for that one app, then you might want to reconsider your purchase decision making process!

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

#88

Although it may not be a popular opinion, here is the reason: there is only one Google (at least for social stuff) and one login system now. Google plus is the "Google account" you need to use any of their social services. I am frankly surprised that they allowed the login of their acquisitions to stay fragmented for such a long time.

The Google Account was already in use before Google+ was created. The difference was that you could have a mixture of services enabled for your account (I only use Gmail, I never use Picasa so I don't have it on my an account).

Now they seem to force you to always have the Google+ enabled even if you never use it. Including for older accounts. I guess this is what makes people angry. It's like being prompted to create Picasa albums every time you try to read your Gmail.

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post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never had this happen and I've had a YouTube account for a while. This honestly sounds like a bug of some sort. Have you found other people experiencing this?

Yes, there has always been people complaining in forums. I've seen steps to recover some of the lost stuff, but I no longer bother. My original account predates the Google acquisition and I lost everything when they made the username -> Google Account transition years ago. Probably my fault because I always decline these things until Google forces the integration upon us anyway.

This same exact thing happened to me as well (same scenario, kept declining until I woke up to find that google merged my accounts without me accepting) last week. Although I magically got my lists back after a few days, it still pisses me off that google forced the transition on me.
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