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Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Post by homosaur »

VikingCoder wrote: post #7

Because YouTube comments were completely useless, and now the company is trying to make them useful / interesting. If I go to a viral video, and I see comments on it from people I actually KNOW, I personally think that would be really cool. That was completely impossible, the old way.

I don't think G+ has much to do with it, more the self-moderation, but I will say the commenting on YT has improved significantly in the last few months.

That of course means we've moved from "abysmal" to "shitty" but hey, progress is progress.

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Post by da_n »

this_user wrote: post #19
da_n wrote: post #11

Tangentially related, my experience with the YouTube/Google plus social network merge has been pretty awful. I opted-out initially to integrate with Google plus, I couldn't have cared less so I just stuck with my original username/account. It seems even though I opted out, Google created a Google plus YouTube profile for me anyway and now chooses to nag me about it every time I go there. I have to pick every time I g…

I have a Google account but without G+ and a YT account that was linked to the Google account. The solution for getting rid of the repeated popups asking you to turn your YT account into a G+ account seems to be to delete your YT channel. That way you will only be logged in with your normal Google account. Of course, you still won't be able to comment (or operate a channel), but at least the popup seems to be gone.

It's funny I used to get that screen to turn it into a plus account but I got annoyed with it and opted out, I guess I didn't appreciate it was a one time option. All I get now is a plain profile picker (which as I say defaults to the social network profile, I have accidentally used it several times liking videos etc and then realising I was in the wrong profile). All things being considered this is only a trivial annoyance, I am just surprised at how bad the UX is for me now.

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Post by nemof »

jiggy2011 wrote: post #27

Surely it wouldn't be it couldn't be that hard to built a better youtube and seed it with quality content. I'm surprised nobody has succeeded. Is it just that the costs of serving video require an enormous company or is it that the term youtube is basically synonymous with "internet video".

Someone has. They're called the content creators. For some reason Youtube has gone to war with the people who make it a good place to go, people who've worked for years building their channel's reputation, content and style. Now youtube are systematically pulling it all down, real name coment issue aside.

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Post by andor »

VikingCoder wrote: post #7

Because YouTube comments were completely useless, and now the company is trying to make them useful / interesting. If I go to a viral video, and I see comments on it from people I actually KNOW, I personally think that would be really cool. That was completely impossible, the old way.

If I go to a viral video, and I see comments on it from people I actually KNOW, I personally think that would be really cool.

Or really creepy.

a- Imagine you're going to a real world bookstore. You look at the back cover of a few books and all the reviews are by your Google+ "friends". Customized for you to increase the chances you're buying it. (If ads are going everywhere and you try to ignore them, what will be left?)

b- In your holidays you're traveling to another continent. After arriving, you're surprised that you see the faces of your Facebook stalkers everywhere. Would you like that?

c- Your government rolls out new mandatory ID smartcards for both the offline and online worlds. Soon after they require everybody to sign their TCP packets with those cards. A friendly smiling illustration of a computer asks you to swipe your card to login to your OS. Have a safe journey online!

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Post by jiggy2011 »

homosaur wrote: post #28
jiggy2011 wrote: post #27

Surely it wouldn't be it couldn't be that hard to built a better youtube and seed it with quality content. I'm surprised nobody has succeeded. Is it just that the costs of serving video require an enormous company or is it that the term youtube is basically synonymous with "internet video".

uh, you mean like Vimeo?

Basically. I like Vimeo better than youtube but it doesn't seem to get used as much.

The front page of vimeo isn't as good though. It tells you about vimeo itself rather than giving you a large search bar and a bunch of content like youtube does.

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Post by citricsquid »

homosaur wrote: post #28
jiggy2011 wrote: post #27

Surely it wouldn't be it couldn't be that hard to built a better youtube and seed it with quality content. I'm surprised nobody has succeeded. Is it just that the costs of serving video require an enormous company or is it that the term youtube is basically synonymous with "internet video".

uh, you mean like Vimeo?

Vimeo is not a Youtube alternative. Vimeo is to Youtube what Hacker News is to reddit. Vimeo is a nice video platform for creative projects, they do not allow a large amount of the content that Youtube does (no gaming videos, no dumb cat videos) and so it's not really suitable to replace Youtube.

There are other alternatives though, dailymotion.com is fairly popular and will accept anything.

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Post by haimez »

john-n wrote: post #29
sker wrote: post #20

I've pretty much given up. Google has deleted my playlists and favorites countless times. Every time they try to integrate YouTube with one of their services/account management, I end up losing everything. My only consolation is that Google+ is accumulating a lot of vitriol and hate across the web. It's shaping up to be the most hated "social" product in the entire Internet.

Forgetting Buzz?

Things have to be known before they can be hated.

Re: Co-Founder of Youtube makes his first comment in 8 years

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Post by homosaur »

jiggy2011 wrote: post #37
homosaur wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

uh, you mean like Vimeo?

Basically. I like Vimeo better than youtube but it doesn't seem to get used as much. The front page of vimeo isn't as good though. It tells you about vimeo itself rather than giving you a large search bar and a bunch of content like youtube does.

Yeah you are right on about that. I always wondered why they aren't more friendly to their own content for nonusers because they're very friendly to discovery when you're logged in.

I think it doesn't get used as much though because they will pull content if you're just posting videos of your friend doing cartwheels or something. There is a higher barrier to entry but they also only want very high quality HD or serious commercial or educational content.

I wonder whether they aren't more forward about discovery to save on bandwidth money.

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