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Re: Slackware 14.1 is released

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Post by dmpk2k »

amree wrote: post #52

I consider myself a newcomer in Linux. Started playing with Redhat then Ubuntu. After being introduced (more like forced) to Slackware, I can't get back to any other distro. However, nowadays I've been torn between Slackware and Debian for the server setup since I've started exploring Ansible to quickly get a server up. But as long as Slackware doesn't offer package dependency management, Ansible won't be that much h…

The reason I gave up on Debian was because Debian was always off doing its own thing (changing default locations, changing how config files were put together, and so on). Slackware was really close to what you'd get if you downloaded the original authors' tarballs and did a ./configure; make; make install.

I think this is particularly relevant to servers. I was always fighting with Debian's ideas of how things should be. Hopefully that's changed in the meantime.

Re: Slackware 14.1 is released

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Post by markeganfuller »

minikomi wrote: post #43
recuter wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The first rule about Arch linux is that we don't talk about Arch linux.

Better take the wiki down then

On that note, the wiki is amazing. I use Debian but I constantly find myself on the Arch wiki due to the in-depth explanations yet simple instructions for everything.

Re: Slackware 14.1 is released

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Post by vasquez »

telephonetemp wrote: post #55
devin wrote: post #37

I ran Slackware many moons ago. It was very bare bones and it took a lot of work, but I was young and it was an immersive experience. As another commenter wrote, people on IRC played up how 1337 they were for running Slack. I disagree slightly with that statement. I spent a lot of time building my Slack system on a PII 266, and I was 12, so it took me a long time with a lot of false starts. I don't think anyone was t…

> Force yourself to just sit there on the command line. That's good advice in general but instead of using the bare CLI I'd suggest that you learn about screen and tmux early on. It'll make you miss the windowing system less.

Personally I use Xmonad for my desktop (all servers are headless, of course -- running screen but tmux looks interesting). It's a no-nonsense tiling WM for managing all your xterm windows. I also have dmenu installed, launching apps directly from the WM is more convenient than you'd think.

I guess the two of you refer to not having X installed at all, but while it does provide some distractions, I can't see myself getting shit done (i.e. procrastinate on hnews) without a real browser.

Re: Slackware 14.1 is released

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Post by milos_cohagen »

Great memories of Slackware, my first Linux. Slackware CD plus the HOWTO's and I was off. Doubt I'd have become a programmer without that fateful day, circa '94, that my friend freaked me out by showing me a Unix on his home PC and loaning me his Slack cd.

Re: Slackware 14.1 is released

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Post by xutopia »

atmosx wrote: post #6

I know that this is no way of judging a distribution - which never had a decent package manager as far as I know - but all the assholes, hacker-wannabes from my early IRC era (1999-2004) were pompously bragging about how elite they were using slackware. I know many of you find that behavior childish but I'm 100% others encountered the same behavior as I did. I never knew if it was the founders/dev's (I think was only…

Maybe you were just surrounded by assholes. I was on Slackware in the 90s, early 2000s and people in the community were friendly and helpful.

Re: Slackware 14.1 is released

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Post by venomsnake »

busterarm wrote: post #50
stinkytaco wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In case you are not trolling: 1. Everything is as close to the upstream package as possible. Debian maintainers sometimes heavily modify their packages and that makes finding help difficult. Slackware rarely changes their packages or only does if necessary. 2. Package manager does not do dependency checking. This makes installing packages from source easier because I don't have to worry about breaking the system when…

I'm not trying to counter your argument because you're totally right, but Arch pretty much exactly matches Slackware on points 1, 3 and 4.

Depends on the packages - in AUR land where people thing it is GREAT idea of cloning the git repo instead of some fixed revision there are many times when trying to build something you see

hunk XX of something failed, aborting.

Re: Slackware 14.1 is released

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Post by csmuk »

markeganfuller wrote: post #62
minikomi wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Better take the wiki down then

On that note, the wiki is amazing. I use Debian but I constantly find myself on the Arch wiki due to the in-depth explanations yet simple instructions for everything.

Same with me on OpenBSD - it's awesome!

Makes me want to play with arch Linux. There goes the weekend!

Re: Slackware 14.1 is released

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Post by busterarm »

venomsnake wrote: post #66
busterarm wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not trying to counter your argument because you're totally right, but Arch pretty much exactly matches Slackware on points 1, 3 and 4.

Depends on the packages - in AUR land where people thing it is GREAT idea of cloning the git repo instead of some fixed revision there are many times when trying to build something you see hunk XX of something failed, aborting.

Yeah but that's under point 2, which I left out. :D
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