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Re: How to use the Python Imaging Library

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Post by frewsxcv » Thu, Nov 07, 2013, 4:59 PM UTC

wiredfool wrote: post #7

AbsoluteDestiny wrote: post #3

An article posted 7th Nov 2013 should not be recommending use of PIL (a dead project) over Pillow, imo. The only reference to Pillow in the article is a link at the bottom to the Pillow tutorial.

I'm a maintainer for pillow. Feel free to ask any questions. (I'm not sure PIL is a dead project. It's just resting. Beautiful plumage through)

Is it planned for Pillow to support RAW formats?

Re: How to use the Python Imaging Library

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Post by wiredfool » Thu, Nov 07, 2013, 5:08 PM UTC

frewsxcv wrote: post #11

wiredfool wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a maintainer for pillow. Feel free to ask any questions. (I'm not sure PIL is a dead project. It's just resting. Beautiful plumage through)

Is it planned for Pillow to support RAW formats?

No one's asked for it that I've heard, so it's not in the plans.

I'd consider adding DNG if there's a good external library. The individual camera raws, that's more of a thankless task with how fast they change/multiply.

Re: How to use the Python Imaging Library

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Post by aelaguiz » Thu, Nov 07, 2013, 5:11 PM UTC

AbsoluteDestiny wrote: post #3

An article posted 7th Nov 2013 should not be recommending use of PIL (a dead project) over Pillow, imo. The only reference to Pillow in the article is a link at the bottom to the Pillow tutorial.

Thanks for this. I've been using PIL forever, didn't know there was a live fork.

Re: How to use the Python Imaging Library

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Post by holyjaw » Thu, Nov 07, 2013, 5:34 PM UTC

wiredfool wrote: post #7

AbsoluteDestiny wrote: post #3

An article posted 7th Nov 2013 should not be recommending use of PIL (a dead project) over Pillow, imo. The only reference to Pillow in the article is a link at the bottom to the Pillow tutorial.

I'm a maintainer for pillow. Feel free to ask any questions. (I'm not sure PIL is a dead project. It's just resting. Beautiful plumage through)

I tried to install PIL the other day via `pip` I believe, and a warning appeared basically saying PIL is not being maintained (is dead), use an alternative.

Re: How to use the Python Imaging Library

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Post by wiredfool » Thu, Nov 07, 2013, 5:51 PM UTC

chrismmccomas wrote: post #8

wiredfool wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a maintainer for pillow. Feel free to ask any questions. (I'm not sure PIL is a dead project. It's just resting. Beautiful plumage through)

I know Django isn't end all, be all, but with them moving forward towards 1.8 where PIL will be completely depreciated, that's really the first nail in the coffin for PIL.

It's also filtering into the distro packaging -- I think it's in debian unstable, ubuntu as of raring, and fedora ~19.

Re: How to use the Python Imaging Library

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Post by stevejohnson » Thu, Nov 07, 2013, 6:10 PM UTC

AbsoluteDestiny wrote: post #3

An article posted 7th Nov 2013 should not be recommending use of PIL (a dead project) over Pillow, imo. The only reference to Pillow in the article is a link at the bottom to the Pillow tutorial.

Here's the documentation for pillow. There are quite a few new features and supported formats.

http://pillow.readthedocs.org/en/latest/

It's amusing to me that he ignores pillow for the whole piece and then links to the tutorial I ported to the pillow docs from the PIL handbook just a few weeks ago.

Re: How to use the Python Imaging Library

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Post by Spiritus » Thu, Nov 07, 2013, 6:10 PM UTC

infocollector wrote: post #5

PIL is dead. How did this get 14+ points?

Because the actual content of the article is interesting, it's as applicable to Pillow as it is to PIL.

Re: How to use the Python Imaging Library

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Post by stevejohnson » Thu, Nov 07, 2013, 6:12 PM UTC

holyjaw wrote: post #14

wiredfool wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a maintainer for pillow. Feel free to ask any questions. (I'm not sure PIL is a dead project. It's just resting. Beautiful plumage through)

I tried to install PIL the other day via `pip` I believe, and a warning appeared basically saying PIL is not being maintained (is dead), use an alternative.

PIL has never worked with pip, but you can still install it using the instructions on their web site.

pillow works fine with pip.

Re: How to use the Python Imaging Library

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Post by tedunangst » Thu, Nov 07, 2013, 7:08 PM UTC

Unreadable in mobile safari. The text is jammed into one skinny column that's so tiny it can't even word wrap effectively. It breaks lines in the middle of words. How and why do people keep going out of their way to make websites unreadable on phones?

Re: How to use the Python Imaging Library

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Post by pawn » Thu, Nov 07, 2013, 7:28 PM UTC

tedunangst wrote: post #19

Unreadable in mobile safari. The text is jammed into one skinny column that's so tiny it can't even word wrap effectively. It breaks lines in the middle of words. How and why do people keep going out of their way to make websites unreadable on phones?

One hardly needs to go out of their way to make a page unreadable in one browser. Developing proper CSS to support cross-browser, mobile-friendly websites to this day still isn't common knowledge for all developers. And it's almost impossible for most people to test their site across different mobile platforms themselves.

For example, this website looks fine on my Windows phone. I'd have no idea his website had an issue if you hadn't mentioned it. If I had been particularly impressed by the way his site looked, I might have been tempted to borrow his CSS and propagate the problem without realizing the problem was there.