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I find this point a very interesting one. Everyone insists that transactions are saved and traceable (which of course they are), but I've never heard of anyone finding out who stole their coins and getting them back. People just seem to accept after a break-in that the money is gone and there's nothing they can do about it. That's not acceptable to me in a currency, particularly not one that people use as a store of…
> The important part of that statement, which was not wrong, is they can be used when stolen. I think the important part that's missing is this: If you have the proper opesec , BTC is anonymous. The 'BTC is anonymous' meme does nothing more than help people who don't know what they're doing get busted. It's like Sarah Palin's email account getting hacked because she picked security questions that were well-known. Eve…
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#724100 BTC = 1.1 mil USD at current prices. These Bitcoins were stolen from website's "hot wallet" (every shared wallet has to operate one to process current withdrawals). This hot wallet was probably too hot though, as it seems that they had most of their coins online, and only about one third offline (other services claim to store 80-90% offline). According to postings on Bitcointalk.org forums people are getting bac…
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#73I don't know what you expected, Bitcoin enthusiasts. You bought into a system where coins could be permanently lost because you forgot a password. You bought into a system where the government cheerfully gained control of a large share of the market by simple confiscation. You have recreated money . But you aren't even good at it! You still think that simple cryptography will excuse you from the fact that you're gree…
Re: Inputs.io hacked – 4100 BTC stolen
#744100 BTC = 1.1 mil USD at current prices. These Bitcoins were stolen from website's "hot wallet" (every shared wallet has to operate one to process current withdrawals). This hot wallet was probably too hot though, as it seems that they had most of their coins online, and only about one third offline (other services claim to store 80-90% offline). According to postings on Bitcointalk.org forums people are getting bac…
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What's wrong with posting an alternative solution to the problem? If someone else developed this kind of service, I would post it here instead, because I'm in Bitcoin from 2011 and I believe it will succeed. Unfortunately no one to date did this yet, that's why we come in.
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> The important part of that statement, which was not wrong, is they can be used when stolen. I think the important part that's missing is this: If you have the proper opesec , BTC is anonymous. The 'BTC is anonymous' meme does nothing more than help people who don't know what they're doing get busted. It's like Sarah Palin's email account getting hacked because she picked security questions that were well-known. Eve…
As an interested bystander who doesn't know much about bitcoin I'm genuinely curious if you can address any of the criticisms above or what you think about them. I'd love to see digital currencies outside state control thrive but am hesitant to use things like Bitcoin given the explicit lack of regulation and controls. The anonymous, unregulated side of it is the least attractive to me - I'd prefer it were not at all…
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#79I don't know what you expected, Bitcoin enthusiasts. You bought into a system where coins could be permanently lost because you forgot a password. You bought into a system where the government cheerfully gained control of a large share of the market by simple confiscation. You have recreated money . But you aren't even good at it! You still think that simple cryptography will excuse you from the fact that you're gree…
You fail to point out that cash has all the same drawbacks: You can permanently lose cash if destroyed in a fire. Your cash or bank account can be confiscated easily by the government. Etc. Of course, unlike cash, Bitcoin has advantages because it offers the option to prevent these losses: you can back up a Bitcoin wallet. You can avoid government confiscation (password-protected wallet). Etc.
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You can still use a "mixing" service, which takes many coins from many sources and mixes it in a way that you can't tell anymore what is the source of Bitcoins you received. Blockchain.info operates one of these.
Interesting thought. Could there be "shunned" Bitcoins where, if they held certain blacklisted wallets in their history, businesses and users would choose not to accept them? One could imagine people still choosing to trade in these Bitcoins, but that such a penalty would forevermore reduce their value next to "unshunned" coins. Could legit businesses and people using Bitcoin collectively reduce the value of stolen B…
This is the mechanism I always thought the feds would use to go after bitcoin. "Possession of stolen property" - My understanding of the law in my area is that I am breaking the law if I possess stolen property, even if I can prove that I obtained said property legitimately and even if I couldn't reasonably be expected to know that said property was stolen.
What if the feds decided to apply the same thing to bitcoins? I mean, what if you legitimately obtain bitcoins that are, in fact, stolen property? Or bitcoins that were used in a law-breaking transaction?