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Inputs.io hacked – 4100 BTC stolen

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Re: Inputs.io hacked – 4100 BTC stolen

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What happens when bitcoins are stolen? Can they be use again without being traced?

Yes and no. You can trace every transaction back to day 0, so it is possible to know which other bitcoin wallet(s) the money was transferred to. If the thief however only uses the stolen BTC to pay for non-identifying services (i.e. internet hosting), it will be very hard to find them.

Re: Inputs.io hacked – 4100 BTC stolen

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What happens when bitcoins are stolen? Can they be use again without being traced?

From what I've been told, yes....they can be used when stolen; it's kinda the whole untraceable, distributed nature of it all.

> untraceable

This is wrong. Every single transaction is saved, by everyone. It's the core of how the protocol works.

That doesn't mean there aren't ways to obscure who controls the wallets, but it's not untraceable, and 'distributed' has nothing to do with privacy.

Re: Inputs.io hacked – 4100 BTC stolen

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Which begs the question, how can one determine the veracity of the security claims of website operators? Bitcoins are a convertible currency but are not regulated, insured or guaranteed by any authority. I guess even modern fiat currencies had their teething problems with theft and counterfeiting, so this is not too surprising.

You cannot, just like you can't determine the claims of any other random server responding to port 80 somewhere on the 'net.

Re: Inputs.io hacked – 4100 BTC stolen

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From what I've been told, yes....they can be used when stolen; it's kinda the whole untraceable, distributed nature of it all.

But they are traceable. There is a public record of every wallet address the bitcoin has touched. If those who it was stolen from reveal their wallet addresses, it should be possible to track down the coins and find out who the thief was.

You can still use a "mixing" service, which takes many coins from many sources and mixes it in a way that you can't tell anymore what is the source of Bitcoins you received. Blockchain.info operates one of these.

Re: Inputs.io hacked – 4100 BTC stolen

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Do bit coins have identity and hence be flagged as stolen somewhere ?.

Each bitcoin goes into a wallet, which contains an address. There's no connection between a person and a wallet, though, and it's not a 1:1 mapping, either.

> flagged as stolen

That would imply some sort of centralized authority to decide exactly what 'stolen' means. Even if a third-party service kept track, it'd be meaningless in short order, as mixers exist...

Re: Inputs.io hacked – 4100 BTC stolen

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I had hundreds of Bitcoin on Coinlenders up until very recently when they switched to a "demo" legal-workaround that was legally terrible and childish.

Coinlenders is a sister site to Inputs that share the same wallets. Coinlenders funds are being re-distributed to Inputs wallets. I obviously made a good decision to leave Coinlenders when I did as Coinlenders users are going to get perhaps 40% of their invested amounts back.

What really should happen is the owner (Tradefortress on BitcoinTalk) Should use his own massive stash of Bitcoins to compensate all his users.

Re: Inputs.io hacked – 4100 BTC stolen

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Anybody wondering how long it will take for Bitcoin to gain enough respectability for the FBI or Secret Service to get involved after hacks like this? If the same amount of money was stolen from a normal bank, it'd likely be covered by every news outlet.
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