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Startup Idea: Used Car Leasing

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Re: Startup Idea: Used Car Leasing

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Where do rental cars go after they're two or three years old? I've always wondered, but they seem like a stock of well maintained vehicles ready for leasing.

they seem like a stock of well maintained vehicles ready for leasing Please excuse my mirth, but fleet vehicles are generally not well-maintained, and the folks renting cars tend to be hard on them.

The difference between a rental car and a Jeep is that you can drive a rental car anywhere.

Re: Startup Idea: Used Car Leasing

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Generally what you pay for when leasing a new car is the depreciation. This is why luxury sedans like a BMW often have better lease deals than cheaper or less desirable cars--you're only paying for the depreciation, not the base cost of the car, and these cars depreciate much slower.

That said, just because that's how it works for new cars doesn't mean there isn't a market for leasing used cars. In fact, I could see myself leasing high mileage luxury cars--cars I wouldn't normally buy due to the mileage but wouldn't mind renting for a few years, so long as the price was notably less than leasing a brand new car of the same kind.

Re: Startup Idea: Used Car Leasing

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If anyone would be doing this, I figure it'd be CarMax. They have a steady supply of used cars (mostly bought at auction), a staff that is good at appraising used cars, and a well worked-out & automated sales process.

Re: Startup Idea: Used Car Leasing

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I look at that chart and just laugh. Why in the Hell would anyone buy a new car these days!?

Easy: 0% APR + new car warranty + lemon law protection + 0 miles > whatever APR you get on a used car + 30 day at best warranty + 40k-60k miles

+ (for new car) much closer to information symmetry with the seller, especially given lemon law protection and new car warranty although those aren't directly about information symmetry.

I've done both new and used and have had a variety of experiences in both cases. But I probably wouldn't be n a big hurry to buy a used car at this point. I looked around when I bought my last vehicle and the price savings associated with modest mileage used vehicles just weren't especially compelling. (And I wasn't even financing.)

Re: Startup Idea: Used Car Leasing

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I think this ignores the fact that used car sales are one of (if not the) largest revenue source for dealerships. With current interest rates a lease would probably end up bringing in less revenue than a sale, new cars move at low prices because dealerships get volume bonuses. Those same bonuses don't apply to used cars so you're eating away at your bonuses if people are now tempted to lease a 2012 for less than a ne…

>I think this ignores the fact that used car sales are one of (if not the) largest revenue source for dealerships. No, they're not. New car trades are liquidated at auction houses. Source: I work in the automotive industry.

The margins on used cars are many times those of new cars. Most dealerships do make more money from their used cars unless they are very high volume.

Re: Startup Idea: Used Car Leasing

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I think this ignores the fact that used car sales are one of (if not the) largest revenue source for dealerships. With current interest rates a lease would probably end up bringing in less revenue than a sale, new cars move at low prices because dealerships get volume bonuses. Those same bonuses don't apply to used cars so you're eating away at your bonuses if people are now tempted to lease a 2012 for less than a ne…

The new hotness in the auto business is used car only stores. So not EVERY dealer would suffer from your proposed hardship. Further, the way the market segments some people only consider new cars. It's as much habit or bias as it is an opportunity based decision.

Re: Startup Idea: Used Car Leasing

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post #32

Generally what you pay for when leasing a new car is the depreciation. This is why luxury sedans like a BMW often have better lease deals than cheaper or less desirable cars--you're only paying for the depreciation, not the base cost of the car, and these cars depreciate much slower. That said, just because that's how it works for new cars doesn't mean there isn't a market for leasing used cars. In fact, I could see…

Luxury brands depreciate at a higher per-day-per-mile amount than non-luxury brands. A trivial amount of research will prove this out. No disrespect intended.

Re: Startup Idea: Used Car Leasing

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You can already assume other people's leases and there's even a market out there for this.

www.leasetrader.com or www.swapalease.com or a boat load of other websites.

How is this any different?

Re: Startup Idea: Used Car Leasing

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post #19

I think this ignores the fact that used car sales are one of (if not the) largest revenue source for dealerships. With current interest rates a lease would probably end up bringing in less revenue than a sale, new cars move at low prices because dealerships get volume bonuses. Those same bonuses don't apply to used cars so you're eating away at your bonuses if people are now tempted to lease a 2012 for less than a ne…

>I think this ignores the fact that used car sales are one of (if not the) largest revenue source for dealerships. No, they're not. New car trades are liquidated at auction houses. Source: I work in the automotive industry.

Most used car models are based on retailing a high percentage of dealer trades as they are the highest margin source of inbound vehicles.

Easy source checks are any research on CarMax, a light review of any of Pollacks books(Velocity, Velocity 2.0, Velocity Overdrive)

Source: I am also a domain expert in the auto industry.

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