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Re: Everpix is Shutting Down

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Post by mrjatx »

armandososa wrote: post #41

I'm a little ashamed to say that this is the first time the shutting down of a service almost brings me to tears. A couple months ago, burglars entered my house and stoled --among other valuable stuff-- our laptops (wife's and mine) our cameras and with them a lot of pictures from our first year married. While I was able to recover some from iCloud and Dropbox and instagram, my wife was crying hopelessly for the lost…

I've lost years of pictures twice now by relying on image hosting sites that eventually shut down. First was Lightbox7, the last I THOUGHT was Photobucket but that appears to be online so I'm not sure which that was. Both times it was infuriating and I don't recall ever receiving any warning when Lightbox7 went dark. Lost all of my high school/middle school pictures (I'm 30 now, this was a long time ago).

I'd warn you to not rely on any startup and to make sure your data, if its critical, is dispersed between different services, such as Dropbox, Google Drive, Sky Drive. I've not used it yet, but you can sync files between cloud services via CloudHQ; https://www.cloudhq.net/dropbox

Re: Everpix is Shutting Down

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Post by basch »

esusatyo wrote: post #57
armandososa wrote: post #41

I'm a little ashamed to say that this is the first time the shutting down of a service almost brings me to tears. A couple months ago, burglars entered my house and stoled --among other valuable stuff-- our laptops (wife's and mine) our cameras and with them a lot of pictures from our first year married. While I was able to recover some from iCloud and Dropbox and instagram, my wife was crying hopelessly for the lost…

Truth is, there aren't as many people like you and me who would pay $20 a month to Everpix. So many people are just not worried about their data until something bad happens to them. I kept telling every single friend every time I see them post data loss grief status update on Facebook - use Dropbox, use CrashPlan, use iCloud, etc etc. And yet it seems like they either think that their data is not worth $5 a month, or…

Bitcasa is 100 dollars a year for unlimited data. By comparison 20 dollars a month is expensive, even if it is a great service.

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Post by jonny_eh »

esusatyo wrote: post #57
armandososa wrote: post #41

I'm a little ashamed to say that this is the first time the shutting down of a service almost brings me to tears. A couple months ago, burglars entered my house and stoled --among other valuable stuff-- our laptops (wife's and mine) our cameras and with them a lot of pictures from our first year married. While I was able to recover some from iCloud and Dropbox and instagram, my wife was crying hopelessly for the lost…

Truth is, there aren't as many people like you and me who would pay $20 a month to Everpix. So many people are just not worried about their data until something bad happens to them. I kept telling every single friend every time I see them post data loss grief status update on Facebook - use Dropbox, use CrashPlan, use iCloud, etc etc. And yet it seems like they either think that their data is not worth $5 a month, or…

Right, people only value their data once it's gone. Here's an idea: free and seamless backing up of your data, but if you want to access it in the case of loss, you pay through the nose.

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Post by uptown »

armandososa wrote: post #41

I'm a little ashamed to say that this is the first time the shutting down of a service almost brings me to tears. A couple months ago, burglars entered my house and stoled --among other valuable stuff-- our laptops (wife's and mine) our cameras and with them a lot of pictures from our first year married. While I was able to recover some from iCloud and Dropbox and instagram, my wife was crying hopelessly for the lost…

Check out CrashPlan for backup. You can either pay them to store your data in their cloud, or backup to an alternate computer/location for free using their sync software. It's great, and cost-effective peace of mind. It does nothing to make your photos easily accessible for browsing purposes - but knowing you've got a copy of your photos in an alternate location is probably more-important.

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Post by InclinedPlane »

Until a company sets up a separate trust designed specificially for handling ongoing long-term operations it's never going to be reasonable to trust a company will continue to host your content for any reasonable amount of time.

It also strikes me as ... odd? I guess that we have these examples of companies declaiming they will be around "forever", they even put it in their name, and yet only surviving for about 27 months. It reminds me of teenagers in "love".

It'll be nice when, if ever, the industry matures out of this state.

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Post by gsharma »

keithwarren wrote: post #48
armandososa wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I liked everything about Everpix, except that they didn't charge enough to keep the lights on. Please don't make the same mistake. I'd want to trust you.

We are looking at 9.95, 19.95 and 35.95 a month based on storage levels and other benefits. The 'other' benefits is something that sets us apart, with our service you get to choose some photos each month and we will mail 3x5 copies to you (or you can have them sent to someone else like parents or grandparents), monthly merchandising deals like 75% off a photo book or calendar.

PictureLife manages pricing based on storage. One of the things I liked about Everpix was that it was $5/mo no limits (AFAIK). If you can figure out a no limit pricing that would be great, it doesn't have to be $5/mo.

I am also a Flickr Pro member. I always thought Flickr+Everpix was a great combination. You can always create a set of apps (desktop/mobile) and have users connect with Flickr accounts to store the pictures. I won't mind paying one time $50-100 for a good Flickr uploader that works more like Everpix.

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Post by nl »

Next someone complains (again!) about an aquihire on HN, and how it means the company is shutting down I'll just point at this as the alternative.

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Post by GrinningFool »

gsharma wrote: post #67
keithwarren wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We are looking at 9.95, 19.95 and 35.95 a month based on storage levels and other benefits. The 'other' benefits is something that sets us apart, with our service you get to choose some photos each month and we will mail 3x5 copies to you (or you can have them sent to someone else like parents or grandparents), monthly merchandising deals like 75% off a photo book or calendar.

PictureLife manages pricing based on storage. One of the things I liked about Everpix was that it was $5/mo no limits (AFAIK). If you can figure out a no limit pricing that would be great, it doesn't have to be $5/mo. I am also a Flickr Pro member. I always thought Flickr+Everpix was a great combination. You can always create a set of apps (desktop/mobile) and have users connect with Flickr accounts to store the pict…

It seems to me that "no limits" scales when you can expect people to average out their usage. But when people just accumulate usage I'd suspect that it becomes harder to sustain. There has to come a known point where a user is costing more than they're paying - and when every active user is bound to reach that point sooner or later, I can't see it could be sustained.

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Post by libovness »

swisspol wrote: post #30
libovness wrote: post #27

This sounds cruel, but Everpix was effectively operating as a Ponzi scheme. They offered services (photo storage) that they couldn't afford unless new money came in. Then the money stopped.

Actually, Everpix was making around $40K / month from subscription revenue covering the infrastructure costs for both free and paid users with some margin. The problem is (obviously) having enough to cover fixed costs as well i.e. mostly personnel costs.

Shouldn't that be factored into the cost structure? What does it matter that the margin on the storage costs was cash flow positive?
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