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Re: We Work Remotely – New Job Board from 37 Signals

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Post by xacaxulu »

nbevans wrote: post #72
msantos wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And here's another fine example: You love Macs, open source software and tools, and cringe when you hear the words .NET

They're advertising for a PHP/Ruby dev so making outlandish bullshit requirements like that, along with iMac fawning, is a must. Firms like this that dictate the technology stack you'll be forced to conform to are unemployable to any good developer.

One said 'must be good at ping pong'....and they'll verify that how if I'm working remotely? Cut and paste bs reqs.

Re: We Work Remotely – New Job Board from 37 Signals

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Post by grey-area »

pmjordan wrote: post #106
grey-area wrote: post #68

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If you are employing people, that may be true, but if you're paying a corporation, even if it's a one-person corporation, I can't see why income tax would come into it. It's one company paying another for services. I imagine the parent was thinking of contractor companies, not individual contractors working as short-term employees, in which case income tax wouldn't apply.

If "setting up an offshore subsidiary company for the purposes of employing remote workers" fits your definition of "it's extremely easy", then yes, I can't argue with you.

That's not at all what I was suggesting. I'm not suggesting setting up subsidiaries or anything of the kind.

It's easy to subcontract work out to other countries if you're not tied to the idea of having employees, but instead hire companies (companies which already exist, like say small design shops, packaging firms for apps, or tech firms) to perform services for you, rather than individuals.

Take 37 signals for example, when they were a consulting company. A company in say Paris could have hired them to work remotely, without worrying about paying income tax - that's all handled on the subcontractor end if it is a company.

Re: We Work Remotely – New Job Board from 37 Signals

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Post by enjo »

atmosx wrote: post #116

I'm not a professional developer but I would be very interested even in low-salary junior developer job in Ruby. But most jobs posting I see require excellent knowledge of virtually every technology out there . I wonder how many developers are excellent at: * UNIX admin (setting up sql + nginx + unicorn on BSD/Linux) Rails/JS/CSS3/HTML5 * TDD * Excellent Closure and/or Scala * Virtualisatin/scaling/concurrency (put a…

Apply anyways. The person reading the resumes usually knows what they really want.

Re: We Work Remotely – New Job Board from 37 Signals

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Post by enjo »

agentultra wrote: post #30

It'd be nice if remote working opportunities didn't come with national borders. The border-less nature of the Internet and knowledge-based work doesn't seem to require geographic location and yet due to complex logistical restrictions most of these job postings are US-only. Kind of a weird place to be. I wonder if there's some kind of hack that could allow small companies and startups to get around the policy issues…

Remote doesn't generally mean completely de-coupled. For us it's more of a timezone issue than anything else. It's still very handy to have people who can meet and collaborate at least for a decent chunk of the day. Which means for a company in the United States getting farther away than western Europe is a real challenge.

Re: We Work Remotely – New Job Board from 37 Signals

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Post by ebarock »

benihana wrote: post #91
oftenwrong wrote: post #60

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You love open source software, but not enough to use an open source OS

I mean technically OS X is an open source OS with a closed-sourced windowing system built on top of it. I hate myself for posting this comment .

Nah! You don't need to hate your self, OS X is good and that's it! hehe

Re: We Work Remotely – New Job Board from 37 Signals

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Post by enjo »

legohead wrote: post #78

I've had the hardest time finding a remote + part-time programming job. I have a day job, but want to work extra during the evenings as well. Basically, two jobs, but the second one being part time obviously. I've tried craigslist, indeed, SO, even HN who's hiring. I send off to anything that looks like it might work. Have had zero success. I can only assume it's a non-desired position. Who wants to give a programmer…

To be fair: As a someone who hires people, I'm very wary of hiring someone who wants to work on the side. In my experience it just never works. There's a reason it's called a "full-time" job. It tends to take all of your time, leaving my project dead in the water.

Re: We Work Remotely – New Job Board from 37 Signals

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Post by podviaznikov »

kirillzubovsky wrote: post #113
httpteapot wrote: post #101

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Have you tried plateforms like oDesk?

If he is serious about actually working and making a living, oDesk is not the right place to work. I wrote about it a few days ago - https://medium.com/startup-shenanigans/66896bbf21da - cheap labor and sup-par clients, yeah, oDesk is definitely not the place.

I would disagree here. You actually can find well paid mid-term and long-term contracts on oDesk. Classification obviously depends on your expenses but I would say it's quite possible to get more money on oDesk than in most IT companies in EU.

Re: We Work Remotely – New Job Board from 37 Signals

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Post by JasonPunyon »

ryanjshaw wrote: post #129
JasonPunyon wrote: post #108

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[status-no-repro] http://imgur.com/i9Ix4EN

[status-reopen] http://imgur.com/zZRveUH

Where in the world is ryanjshaw? (Where are you accessing careers from? We might not be advertising in your area.)

Re: We Work Remotely – New Job Board from 37 Signals

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Post by _sh »

laureny wrote: post #89
mhurron wrote: post #76

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They keep it hidden for several reasons, though in reality they boil down trying to pay you as little as possible. -They hope to wow you with the position so you'll accept a pay lower than you wanted. This doesn't work when the salary range is listed up front and is so low you won't bother to respond. -They're going to base their offer on how much you make now. This works when you're trying to move up in your career,…

Good points, but personally, I have never played along with the "We'll pay you just a bit more than what you are making right now". When the question "How much do you make right now?" comes up in an interview, I answer "How much I make right now is irrelevant, here is how much I want if I'll be working for you" (said with more tact, obviously).

"Unfortunately my current employment contract precludes me from discussing my salary. I'm sure you understand and have similar policies yourself. However, a ballpark figure would be north of $[desired-salary]."

Re: We Work Remotely – New Job Board from 37 Signals

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Post by mgkimsal »

andyroid wrote: post #118
mgkimsal wrote: post #70

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"though I've heard Ubuntu got better" I've heard that about linux every year for the past 14 years, usually from people who've only been using desktop linux for a year or two. Not exclusively, but usually.

And you somehow doubt that to be true, or what is your point?

"better" is always subjective, and it's never even been close to my expectations.

I don't think most people who've told me "oh, has gotten a lot better in the last year" even know what the problems are that keep some people away. I think it's largely PR parroting, and a way to seem marginally 'with it' re: linux. "hey yeah, I know ubuntu had some issues in the past, but you should really try it now - it's a lot better!" - just got 2 emails from people in the last week or so asking why I use OSX.

I was a desktop/laptop linux user from 2000-2008. That's about 9 years of "oh hey - things are so much better this year". And yet... in 2008 I still had issues trying to have multiple apps access audio at the same time. I still had issues plugging in an external monitor on a laptop (or 2 monitors on a desktop). I grew tired of rickety perlgtk scripts that were marginal wrappers around Xorg config files that never quite ever worked the way I could interpret the man page info. I've used desktop ubuntu distros virtualbox and vmware over the past couple years - things don't seem to have gotten that much better, mostly because the majority of the developers in those ecosystems don't see these things as massive problems to be solved in the first place (indeed, with some, it's a badge of honor that things are still hard to configure).

Again, the point is "hey, linux is better on the desktop now", in my experience, comes from people who've never really used it for a long time and had moderate expectations not met. Many people I know that use desktop linux expect it to be subpar for many things, and when it's just 'par' they herald this as a big improvement.

That said, I really miss fish from KDE.

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