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Re: Mangalyaan, India’s First Mars Mission

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Post by pramalin »

fit2rule wrote: post #20
jayadevan wrote: post #11

One would imagine that scientists believe less in rituals. ISRO scientists pray at the Thirupathi temple before every mission.

Its not like NASA scientists don't have their rituals too. The Russians, as well, have a history of sticking to their superstitious habits also. Science doesn't mean you have to be an emotion-less robot.

India's superstitions are far more deeper and affect common people in their daily life. Kudos to ISRO on this mission, as they might have faced lots of opposition to their operations from many sides. Even the Nobel laureate scientist C.V Raman opposed space explorations in his time, saying that they are meddling with Gods.

For example, Mars is considered as a malicious planet in their astrology and people fear its effects next to Saturn. It is hard for one to find a matching person to marry if he/she is are afflicted by Mars, because one of the belief is that such afflicted person's in-laws will face untimely death. This belief causes so much grief for the parents looking for alliance (ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mangal_Dosha).

Hopefully scientific missions such as this will help the people to shed their unfounded fear and live better life.

Re: Mangalyaan, India’s First Mars Mission

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Post by slowdown »

kamaal wrote: post #98
deepGem wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My dad worked at ISRO for 30+ years and is now retired - so what I'm saying has some merit. I don't know where you are getting the impression that ISRO engineers aren't paid well. Sure, they are not paid Google salaries but they are no way paid peanuts. A fresh engineering graduate will stand to get around 40K INR per month. Please not that if you are not landing up a software job, in India, it's a pretty shitty mark…

Compensation is sufficient, but in no way competitive. Given the real estate market in Bangalore, some of my friends who've had foreign travel opportunities in MegaCorps are buying 80 Lac+ flats. Some more than one of them. And these are guys are mostly under 35 or some even under 30. Any one who is on VP/Director/Senior engineering managers levels is buying 2.5 Crore+ villas. Expensive cars, having vacations in fore…

Why are you challenging deepGem when he is confronting based on first hand experience and facts while all you have are just mostly assumptions? I understand you intend to win the argument here, but this is the wrong way to do it.

>Again, you can be happy with what you get. But that thought doesn't work always. Peer pressure does amazing things to you. Even if you don't get into it yourself, you will get into it eventually once you start a family.

Can you please stop swaying away from the topic at hand just to support yourself?

I take no sides, just that your ignorant arguments are making these places a little messier (and possibly irritating). I just called one of my friends from ISRO to confirm what deepGem said and they seem to be right.

I understand you need to earn Karma here, but this is really the wrong way to earn it - By spreading mis-information about something you don't have first hand experience with. If I had the tone of the others, I would have probably finished it off with just a single line by saying GTFO, but for the sake of HN etiquette, can I kindly ask you to stop this nonsensical Karma-whorish misinformation spreading?

Re: Mangalyaan, India’s First Mars Mission

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Post by oscargrouch »

bolder88 wrote: post #30
pavs wrote: post #19

Every time India space programs discussion comes out a group of people will bring up India's poverty and other problem that should be fixed instead of investing on space program. I used to be one of those guys (I am from Bangladesh), then I looked at the actual cost of this space program and realized that its not a lot of money (~$70 Million) even by India's standard. For example, in india's domestic cricket tourname…

One of the bigger questions is international aid. "Since 2007 India has been the world's largest recipient of recorded remittances from abroad. In 2010 these inflows were worth $54bn (£35bn). UK foreign direct investment in India is considerable, reaching £1.8bn in the same year." You can't really on the one hand claim your country is terribly poor, and needs handouts from other nations, and on the other play at bein…

[transcript]:"how dare you, little people, to dream, and make the things we, the superior ones, were incompetent to do?"

I wish India the best in its effort to the future and a better life to all of their people. It by their own big dreams and achievements they will create a great and shining civilization (they already has)

Let your light shine through the world, and dont listen to the bullies; it's pure envy

Re: Mangalyaan, India’s First Mars Mission

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Post by bolder88 »

factorialboy wrote: post #43
bolder88 wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the bigger questions is international aid. "Since 2007 India has been the world's largest recipient of recorded remittances from abroad. In 2010 these inflows were worth $54bn (£35bn). UK foreign direct investment in India is considerable, reaching £1.8bn in the same year." You can't really on the one hand claim your country is terribly poor, and needs handouts from other nations, and on the other play at bein…

Maybe, just maybe, the British should not have colonized and looted India and parts of Asia and Africa for 300 years?

So you believe that the current British, should be paying money for crimes committed by their ancestors?

Personally, I don't think people should pay for other peoples mistakes, even if they happen to be born in the same country.

Re: Mangalyaan, India’s First Mars Mission

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Post by kamaal »

slowdown wrote: post #112
kamaal wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Compensation is sufficient, but in no way competitive. Given the real estate market in Bangalore, some of my friends who've had foreign travel opportunities in MegaCorps are buying 80 Lac+ flats. Some more than one of them. And these are guys are mostly under 35 or some even under 30. Any one who is on VP/Director/Senior engineering managers levels is buying 2.5 Crore+ villas. Expensive cars, having vacations in fore…

Why are you challenging deepGem when he is confronting based on first hand experience and facts while all you have are just mostly assumptions? I understand you intend to win the argument here, but this is the wrong way to do it. >Again, you can be happy with what you get. But that thought doesn't work always. Peer pressure does amazing things to you. Even if you don't get into it yourself, you will get into it event…

Well I apologize If my arguments have offended any one here.

And since you have already 'understood' I'm here for karma and you are for the larger good of the humanity. What can I say further? Especially when you have taken so much pain of calling your friends and verifying the information to debate a stranger over the internet.

>>I would have probably finished it off with just a single line by saying GTFO

You already have, haven't you?

>>can I kindly ask you to stop this nonsensical Karma-whorish misinformation spreading?

You definitely have a unique knack of 'kindly' offending and abusing people.

Re: Mangalyaan, India’s First Mars Mission

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Post by slowdown »

kamaal wrote: post #115
slowdown wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are you challenging deepGem when he is confronting based on first hand experience and facts while all you have are just mostly assumptions? I understand you intend to win the argument here, but this is the wrong way to do it. >Again, you can be happy with what you get. But that thought doesn't work always. Peer pressure does amazing things to you. Even if you don't get into it yourself, you will get into it event…

Well I apologize If my arguments have offended any one here. And since you have already 'understood' I'm here for karma and you are for the larger good of the humanity. What can I say further? Especially when you have taken so much pain of calling your friends and verifying the information to debate a stranger over the internet. >>I would have probably finished it off with just a single line by saying GTFO You alread…

>You definitely have a unique knack of 'kindly' offending and abusing people.

Well, it's much better than spreading false rumours about you just because I don't like you. (Which is what you've been doing about subjects you don't know about)

Re: Mangalyaan, India’s First Mars Mission

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Post by tapsboy »

salilpa wrote: post #13
jayadevan wrote: post #11

One would imagine that scientists believe less in rituals. ISRO scientists pray at the Thirupathi temple before every mission.

not just isro scientists. even when our aircraft carrier INS Vikrant was launched, we had an elaborate pooja

As an atheist, it bothers me, when the "secular democratic republic" uses public money to hold ceremonies that cater to one community/religious traditions

Re: Mangalyaan, India’s First Mars Mission

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Post by harichinnan »

bolder88 wrote: post #109
manojlds wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Remittances are money that Indians working abroad sent back to India. Is that aid??? And the quote again talks about "foreign direct investments". FDI. Does that read aid? Where are you quoting that from? It is not good form to give a quote without a link. And you make a quote and come to a conclusion about aid. Btw, the UK aid to India is £280m. Edit - Probably this one - http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/feb/18…

Thanks, I copy and pasted the wrong bit. But the point stands.

No sir, are you complaining about the #280 million aid to India? That's a pittance to the 1.8 trillion dollar and growing economy India is. Sure there are poor people. But we are a growing economy and have a greater need for technology than U.K has. That was always our ticket to prosperity. Who knows, this might open up an Indian empire in the future solar system economy :-)

Re: Mangalyaan, India’s First Mars Mission

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Post by s-topper »

kamaal wrote: post #115
slowdown wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are you challenging deepGem when he is confronting based on first hand experience and facts while all you have are just mostly assumptions? I understand you intend to win the argument here, but this is the wrong way to do it. >Again, you can be happy with what you get. But that thought doesn't work always. Peer pressure does amazing things to you. Even if you don't get into it yourself, you will get into it event…

Well I apologize If my arguments have offended any one here. And since you have already 'understood' I'm here for karma and you are for the larger good of the humanity. What can I say further? Especially when you have taken so much pain of calling your friends and verifying the information to debate a stranger over the internet. >>I would have probably finished it off with just a single line by saying GTFO You alread…

>Especially when you have taken so much pain of calling your friends and verifying the information to debate a stranger over the internet.

Since you're taking so much pain to spread false info, others are taking some pain to correct a stranger over Internet.

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