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Avoiding Heart Disease

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Re: Avoiding Heart Disease

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The issue is that doctors give you muddled advice too. I had my blood test done last year and I was told that I should cut down on eating any meat and switch to a plant based diet. He also vaguely told me to do more exercise. Yet, I eat incredibly lean food, albeit high protein mainly because I weight lift. I also run 4.5 miles every other day. He couldn't go into more detail apart from this general warning. I could…

The claim that you can't get sufficient protein for pretty much any level of exercise from a plant-based diet is utterly specious. For example, quinoa is 14% complete protein, and chia is almost 17% — also complete protein — with an Ω3-to-Ω6 ratio of around 3:1, almost exactly the inverse of beef. Source: I'm a vegetarian, and I pay scrupulous attention to this stuff.

> Quinoa is 14% complete protein, and chia is almost 17%

Quinoa provides 3.8 grams of protein per 100kcal of energy [1]. Boneless skinless chicken breast provides 18.8 grams of protein per 100kcal of energy [2].

A weightlifter who wished to consume 100 grams of protein per day would have to eat 2632 kcal of quinoa, vs. 532 kcal of chicken breast.

[1] http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/6383

[2] http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/1018

Re: Avoiding Heart Disease

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One thing I have recently become aware of, after my doctor ordered a test, is checking for mutations in the MTHFR gene. It's an enzyme which deals with how we process folate into its active form and is important in many pathways

Supposedly the C677T mutation increases your risk for heart disease. There is also another one, A1298C that is very common but no consensus on how it may effect health. I also matters whether you you have one or two copies of the mutations.

Some recommend supplementing with methylated B vitamins to offset the any negative health effects, but I'm still soaking this in and am not sure what the consensus is it yet.

Re: Avoiding Heart Disease

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Number one leading cause of death: Heart Disease.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_causes_of_death_by_rate

What's scary is that we really don't know much about it. I heard Randell Schwartz (of Perl fame) talk about how the modern carb diet is killing people. He lost 60 pounds by monitoring his carb intake.

https://plus.google.com/+RandalLSchwartz/posts/9fYhGYfLNY3

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Fred Kummerow seems like a credible authority on the subject of heart disease:

"My findings indicate fried foods, powdered egg yolk, excess vegetable oils, partially hydrogenated vegetable oils and cigarette smoke as the greatest culprits in heart disease." http://www.futuremedicine.com/doi/full/10.2217/clp.13.34

Re: Avoiding Heart Disease

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Interesting writeup - I've been thinking a lot about this recently, as a member of my family is dealing with an ongoing illness which is poorly understood.

I would love for them to be able to monitor their own vital signs more closely (via wearable tech), but even that when done in isolation is not necessarily going to help - for me the real breakthrough will come when we aggregate this data. Imagine being able to use machine learning to detect patterns across groups of people that can help pinpoint specific triggers for disease and illness.

Re: Avoiding Heart Disease

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> Generic advice to eat well and exercise is not as effective as having a specific number you're trying to improve on e.g. lowering your ApoB count. I'm not so sure this is a wise approach. I won't say that numbers aren't important, but it's worth noting that in many cases, doctors still don't know what particular measurements actually mean in practical terms because cause versus correlation is so hard to figure out…

I think the OP is referring to the fact it's much easier to focus and improve on specific items than it is to follow some nebulous generic advice. "Lose weight" is much less effective than "Exercise 30 minutes per day and eat 2200 calories per day".

What seems to be likely regarding cholesterol in general is that it has been greatly over focused on to the detriment of more likely culprits like sugar and refined foods. Of course, the cynic might say you can't take a pill made by Pfizer to lower your sugar and refined foods like you can to lower your cholesterol.

Re: Avoiding Heart Disease

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For those interested in getting a much more comprehensive look at their blood, along with a consultation from a doctor to help you better understand the connections, check out http://www.wellnessfx.com/

(I haven't tried it out myself yet, but I'm planning to next year - I'm in no way affiliated with them, but definitely seems like a great idea)

Re: Avoiding Heart Disease

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Number one leading cause of death: Heart Disease. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_causes_of_death_by_rate What's scary is that we really don't know much about it. I heard Randell Schwartz (of Perl fame) talk about how the modern carb diet is killing people. He lost 60 pounds by monitoring his carb intake. https://plus.google.com/+RandalLSchwartz/posts/9fYhGYfLNY3

Number one leading cause of death: Heart Disease.

Yes, that is generally true throughout the developed world. On the other hand, heart disease death rates have been declining at all relevant ages across several decades throughout the developed world.[1]

Our understanding of what causes heart disease is very partial indeed. On the other hand, our understanding of how to treat heart disease has increased enormously in my lifetime. My mom, still alive and well at age eighty-one, was a surgical nurse who was described by my late dad as "one of a dozen people in the world who could disassemble and reassemble a heart-lung machine" early in her career. She has seen enormous progress in surgical treatment of heart conditions that used to be sure death sentences, and medical treatment for heart disease has improved greatly too. A CDC report on declining heart disease in the United States[2] suggests what more can be done.

[1] http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=longevity-w...

[2] http://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2011/p1013_heart_disease.h...

Re: Avoiding Heart Disease

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I tend to think of doctors as mechanics. Often when something breaks on my car, the explanation is "it's an old car, that happens eventually." And when they talk about it after fixing it, it's usually "Toyota's a good brand. Take care of it and you'll get another 100k miles from that engine." If I took my car to my mechanic with nothing wrong and asked what I should be doing to make sure the transmission lasts as long as possible, they will give me some generic intuitive advice, but they have no real insight because they are not in the business of maximizing the lifetime of healthy cars.

Doctors are kind of the same way. They see patients who have problems and need them fixed. If you walk into a doctor's office and say your family has a history of heart disease and you're concerned, they'll run a standard diagnostic to see if there is a problem. If there isn't, they'll give you generic advice. Outside of that, they are not really likely to have much insight into how to prevent heart disease in your specific case. Maybe you'll get lucky and the doctor will have recently read a relevant paper.

This seems to me like a problem that you're better off having answered by a medical researcher rather than a physician in the trenches. Researchers are the ones who are taking the long view on outcomes in patients. Keeping with the same analogy, you're probably better off talking to a mechanical engineer at a car company about maximizing the life of your currently healthy transmission.

Also, I generally see this as a problem that will be best addressed by machine learning researchers collaborating with medical researchers. Then again, I'm an ML PhD student working on health applications, so I'm biased. :)

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