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Seattle Mayor: I have Comcast, and I would like better service

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Re: Seattle Mayor: I have Comcast, and I would like better service

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McGinn frustrates me. Issues like this are highly popular and resonate with everyone, but I haven't been a fan of several of his policies. He raised public parking rates to pay for street maintenance upgrades, safety at schools, etc. But, a lot of city streets have yet to be repaired, and safety at our particular local school has slowly been getting worse. He has had to deal with a police force in transition after a…

You can't make a statement like that in a vacuum and when compared to his opponent he's more than forthcoming and opinionated. Murray doesn't have a single issue other than being the guy who will be even more of a friend to big business than McGinn is. Most people voting for Murray are war on cars mouth breathers who have no idea just how little was spent on bike lanes compared to roads.

Huh?

Just to be clear, I was talking about McGinn. Are you making an assumption that critique of candidate A implies support of candidate B?

FWIW, I don't know much about Murray, either. But McGinn is the mayor, not Murray, so I have more familiarity with him than the challenger.

Re: Seattle Mayor: I have Comcast, and I would like better service

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McGinn frustrates me. Issues like this are highly popular and resonate with everyone, but I haven't been a fan of several of his policies. He raised public parking rates to pay for street maintenance upgrades, safety at schools, etc. But, a lot of city streets have yet to be repaired, and safety at our particular local school has slowly been getting worse. He has had to deal with a police force in transition after a…

> He raised public parking rates to pay for street maintenance upgrades, safety at schools, etc. But, a lot of city streets have yet to be repaired

And of course, Mercer in Lower Queen Anne is getting every single street corner re-done for...no apparent reason.

Re: Seattle Mayor: I have Comcast, and I would like better service

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You can't intelligently discuss cable monopolies without following the money and reading the franchise agreement. As near as Google and I can figure out, you need to read: http://www.seattle.gov/cable/comcast_franchise_06.pdf Is this the most recent revision? Who knows. That would take more effort than I'm willing to expend. First of all the agreement I linked to at seattle.gov claims to be in effect until 2016. So u…

I don't think this nullifies any of what the article discusses. Comcast only has as much of a monopoly as the city gives them, and this franchise agreement explicitly reserves the right to grant similar franchise agreements:

"This Franchise is not exclusive. The Grantee acknowledges and agrees that the City reserves the right to grant one (1) or more additional franchises or other similar lawful authorization to provide Cable Services within the City; provided, however, that no such franchise or similar lawful authorization shall contain material terms or conditions which are substantially more favorable or less burdensome to the competitive entity than the material terms and conditions herein."

Sounds like the mayor has decided to grant some other franchises. And, the article also explains in several places that Comcast is being given similar opportunities to work with the city on fiber rollout...satisfying the clause that nobody else gets preferential treatment.

And, this agreement is pretty focused on cable television service; it's an accident of history (and probably a mistake of regulation) that cable television companies are in the internet business, at all.

It sounds, to me, like the mayor is negotiating with any interested party, and is insisting that conduit construction include provisions for fiber. It's all within his purview, and the franchise agreement with Comcast doesn't nullify that.

That said, I think the cable monopolies (and telco monopolies) in the US have been disastrous for innovation and consumers (we have among the worst Internet service at the highest prices in the developed world). But, I am suggesting that the mayor of Seattle may be coming down closer to the right side of the issue than most.

Re: Seattle Mayor: I have Comcast, and I would like better service

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I'm in support of more fiber, I'm actually considering a move to get it at some of the downtown condos that offer it. However, this feels like the promise of a down in the polls incumbent hoping to turn this into a 1 issue race. Why weren't 4 years enough to get it rolling already? (And don't take this wrong, I likely will vote for McGinn, this just seems opportunistic is all).

It sounds like it is rolling along, though the details on the "14 neighborhoods" is a bit vague.

A quick search of 'gigabit seattle' will make things less vague: http://gigabitseattle.com/areas/

Re: Seattle Mayor: I have Comcast, and I would like better service

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McGinn frustrates me. Issues like this are highly popular and resonate with everyone, but I haven't been a fan of several of his policies. He raised public parking rates to pay for street maintenance upgrades, safety at schools, etc. But, a lot of city streets have yet to be repaired, and safety at our particular local school has slowly been getting worse. He has had to deal with a police force in transition after a…

> He raised public parking rates to pay for street maintenance upgrades, safety at schools, etc. But, a lot of city streets have yet to be repaired And of course, Mercer in Lower Queen Anne is getting every single street corner re-done for...no apparent reason.

That's happened in Green Lake and Wallingford as well. And it's really strange, because it doesn't appear to serve any functional purpose. A couple of them now serve to slow down neighborhood traffic (a good thing), but mostly they look like replacements for something that didn't need replaced.

Re: Seattle Mayor: I have Comcast, and I would like better service

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I'm in support of more fiber, I'm actually considering a move to get it at some of the downtown condos that offer it. However, this feels like the promise of a down in the polls incumbent hoping to turn this into a 1 issue race. Why weren't 4 years enough to get it rolling already? (And don't take this wrong, I likely will vote for McGinn, this just seems opportunistic is all).

In politics, getting anything done from scratch in 4 years is pretty hard.

That said, this is hardly some half-hearted promise. He ran on this promise and worked hard on pushing it through. In fact, when I moved I made sure I was in a coverage area because it's supposed to be become available in Q1 2014:

http://gigabitseattle.com/areas/

http://gigabitseattle.com/faqs/customer-faqs/#faq-425

He didn't quite get it done in 4 years but if it does come out in Q1 it'll have been 4.25 years which isn't bad considering the scale of the project and how many entrenched interests you have to fight.

Re: Seattle Mayor: I have Comcast, and I would like better service

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When I moved to Seattle, I was very fortunate in that CondoInternet served my apartment building. They offered gigabit internet for $120 a month and 100mbps for $60. All after taxes, too. Coming from years of dealing with Comcast, this was a welcome change.

Increased availability for this level of quality would be great to see.

Re: Seattle Mayor: I have Comcast, and I would like better service

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When I moved to Seattle, I was very fortunate in that CondoInternet served my apartment building. They offered gigabit internet for $120 a month and 100mbps for $60. All after taxes, too. Coming from years of dealing with Comcast, this was a welcome change. Increased availability for this level of quality would be great to see.

I pay Time Warner $60 a month for 20mbps....

Re: Seattle Mayor: I have Comcast, and I would like better service

#30
For the past year the city of Seattle has been hyping "gigabit seattle" as the solution. The idea is that a private group would get access to city fiber at/near cost and manage the actual service. The private group in this case is Gigabit Squared.

As far as I can tell Gigabit Squared is a sham. They have no previous completed projects. The dates and milestones reported to the press and recorded in the city meetings, like the CTTAB, are woefully different. Event the dates in the press are terribly vauge, and keep slipping anyways. First it was "in 2013", then "late 2013", and now it's "in 2014."

My neighbor has been trying to get implementation details for the past year. The Seattle mayors office said "contact our partner". Emails and phone calls to Gigabit Squared went unanswered. She then went to the mayors office, complaining that the "partner" was unresponsive. The reply? "We cant help you. You have to talk to gigabit squared for any details."

Last I looked they were missing little things like an ASN, network engineers, an operations group, facilities, outside plant techs and trucks. Their jobs page was a generic "ask about exciting opportunities". I find it a bit incredible that they could feasibly be launching a network of this scope inside of a year.

I hope it actually works, I'd love to stop giving money to Comcast. But what I see so far is another Seattle Monorail Project.

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