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Deployment in usable apps timeline? I'm in.
http://talky.io , http://vmux.co , http://vline.com
Don't forget http://tokbox.com !
Microsoft to retire Skype Desktop API
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Re: Microsoft to retire Skype Desktop API
#52Anyone know if you can still use an older client to use the api? I guess if you can it's just a waiting game till the client becomes unsupported.
Quite possibly.
I've taken a copy of the most recent standalone installer which precedes the api-warning-nag version. It appears to be able to install over the top of the more recent version, and when my desktop API is disabled I will install it and see what happens.
The change-log of the api-warning-nag version does not mention the warning popups and just lists a higher contrast UI as an accessibility improvement. I think I can do without those kinds of updates if it means keeping the API. Fluxon mentions a forced update, hopefully that was also a featured added with the api-warning-nag update.
The standalone installer has already been signed by Skype, so it can be passed around without worries about whether it's genuine.
(I would post all the version info but am on a different computer)
Re: Microsoft to retire Skype Desktop API
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Really? I would of figured anything that claims to be "high security" was just making delusional marketing points and was the same bog standard security you would get elsewhere. You are less cynical than I.
GhotiFish, Why do you give snarky trolls like kevinxucs advice on how to avoid/circumvent the hellban? If you took the time to read his post history, you'd see he's exactly the kind of 1 line, trollish, thoughtless commenter that we don't want to see in HN.
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are you... looking at the same user I am?
https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=kevinxucs
I can make the following deductions about him.
1. This user is young, likely male, opinionated. None of these are problems.
2. This user tried take a shot at IE to posture socially, and did not expect that tact to fail.
3. When he was down voted, he changed his behaviour.
I told him exactly because of his post history. It tells a very clear story of what happened. A very clear and unfair story.
edit: Oh wait, you have show dead off, don't you? Yah turn that on, it paints a different picture.
Re: Microsoft to retire Skype Desktop API
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I can highly recommend Jitsi over Skype. Jitsi also is snooping free and recommended for Video conferencing & VoIP on https://prism-break.org/
Unfortunately what I've found is that anything that claims "high security" or P2P technology means that they don't support the ability to record all broadcasts on a central server. I understand and appreciate where those products are coming from, but education institutions have policies that require all communications to be reviewed and audited.
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Re: Microsoft to retire Skype Desktop API
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can highly recommend Jitsi over Skype. Jitsi also is snooping free and recommended for Video conferencing & VoIP on https://prism-break.org/
Unfortunately what I've found is that anything that claims "high security" or P2P technology means that they don't support the ability to record all broadcasts on a central server. I understand and appreciate where those products are coming from, but education institutions have policies that require all communications to be reviewed and audited.
I guess it would be possible to build a client that always connect to a recording peer (and don't allow to disconnect it)?
Since they seem to build a product around whatever solution they will pick, they could as well do that with jitsi. What am I missing?
Re: Microsoft to retire Skype Desktop API
#56The current leadership at microsoft seems to actively trying to destroy the company.
Compatibility is a word that could explain microsoft's success. Destroy that and their competitive advantage is none existent.
I dont want to say more... But a lot of decisions these days are "change for change sake."
Re: Microsoft to retire Skype Desktop API
#57And this is why building a great product with the intention of selling it to the highest bidder is a fundamental betrayal of your customers.
Re: Microsoft to retire Skype Desktop API
#58And this is why building a great product with the intention of selling it to the highest bidder is a fundamental betrayal of your customers.
>And this is why building a great product with the intention of selling it to the highest bidder is a fundamental betrayal of your customers.
Maybe you might furnish us with a list of business models you do approve of? How about:
- Building a crap product and selling it to the highest bidder?
- Building a great product and selling it to the lowest bidder?
Building a great product and selling it (when the offer is) made to the highest bidder is the basis a of large number of business models. Are you against selling companies at all?
Re: Microsoft to retire Skype Desktop API
#59>These changes will significantly improve the call quality and speed of delivery of instant messages, while retaining excellent battery life of mobile devices. How does scrapping a desktop API affect mobile in this way?
Because Microsoft can update the Skype architecture so that it is more centralized like other IM applications. Right now a lot of Skype is peer-to-peer, which is not good on mobile. I, for one, am really looking forwards to this change.
I thought that MS had already re-engineered Skype, and most of the if the peer to peer operation was removed in favor of central MS server control. Which also had the side effect of making it possible/simpler for the NSA/FBI to gather information from skype conversations.
Re: Microsoft to retire Skype Desktop API
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Network effect. All my friends and family use Skype and Facebook. It's difficult to avoid using them when people have picked them as their sole method of communication.
Very much so. I use it at work because we use it for interviews, since most people have it, and their voice and screen-share are more reliable (on nearly every system) than alternatives (which people never have installed anyway). We universally hate it. We haven't found anything better :(
Google Voice/Talk/Hangouts does about the same stuff and has similar market penetration, as far as people's familiarity with the company and likeliness that they already have an account.