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Re: 'W' Considered Harmful

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Post by troels » Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 8:56 AM UTC

Torn wrote: post #22

Zenst wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes but is great fun seeing people say out web address's. Ah the early days when they spelt out the http:// part as well. If it was realy a bother though somebody would of pulled a Prince and called it squiggle. ALl this though is based upon English use of the letter W, sure other languages have there own quirks and idiosims.

* Would have pulled a Prince

Completely off topic here, but why is it that people some times write "would of" instead of "would have"? Is it something you would use in spoken language? And where?

Re: 'W' Considered Harmful

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Post by bazzargh » Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 9:02 AM UTC

troels wrote: post #41

Torn wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

* Would have pulled a Prince

Completely off topic here, but why is it that people some times write "would of" instead of "would have"? Is it something you would use in spoken language? And where?

Would have is abbreviated "would've", which is pronounced similarly. I expect people get it from hearing that before seeing it written.

Re: 'W' Considered Harmful

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 1:30 PM UTC

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Re: 'W' Considered Harmful

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Post by Zenst » Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 4:45 PM UTC

troels wrote: post #41

Torn wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

* Would have pulled a Prince

Completely off topic here, but why is it that people some times write "would of" instead of "would have"? Is it something you would use in spoken language? And where?

Good question and I'll put it down to my constant logic fight with English (my native language though it is most illogical for people with aspergers) and I would also admit this is what I say. With that it could be deemed slang usage perhaps. But a valid question and something I'm now going to be more mindful about, though I still have no golden answear as too why it comes about.

Re: 'W' Considered Harmful

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Post by Zenst » Fri, Nov 01, 2013, 4:49 PM UTC

bazzargh wrote: post #42

troels wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Completely off topic here, but why is it that people some times write "would of" instead of "would have"? Is it something you would use in spoken language? And where?

Would have is abbreviated "would've", which is pronounced similarly. I expect people get it from hearing that before seeing it written.

You may very well be right. I use it without thinking and with that I suppose it is a form of slang variation in usage. Though my grammer and spelling are below par and I do find my native English language a fun feild of rules with so many exceptions that if it was code it would be the worst code ever. That and even today we still do not have a definitive grammer/spell checker that can understand all context and usage. Yet we can put a man on the moon and develop advanced AI that gets better every day.

Though I'm starting too feel that you may be right in how this permutation of words originated, given language accents and localisations pre internet days.

Re: 'W' Considered Harmful

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Post by jaibot » Sat, Nov 02, 2013, 8:41 PM UTC

maaku wrote: post #25

rcthompson wrote: post #11

Wait a minute, there are significant backward-compatibility concerns to be addressed before we shorten the pronunciation of "W". How will we fill the extra two syllables in the ABC song?

Maybe we can enunciate L-M-N-O-P instead of running them all together?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0r8egBvWRM&feature=youtube_...

Re: 'W' Considered Harmful

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Nov 02, 2013, 8:41 PM UTC

maaku wrote: post #25

rcthompson wrote: post #11

Wait a minute, there are significant backward-compatibility concerns to be addressed before we shorten the pronunciation of "W". How will we fill the extra two syllables in the ABC song?

Maybe we can enunciate L-M-N-O-P instead of running them all together?

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Re: 'W' Considered Harmful

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Post by troels » Sun, Nov 03, 2013, 10:30 PM UTC

bazzargh wrote: post #42

troels wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Completely off topic here, but why is it that people some times write "would of" instead of "would have"? Is it something you would use in spoken language? And where?

Would have is abbreviated "would've", which is pronounced similarly. I expect people get it from hearing that before seeing it written.

Makes sense, I suppose. I was wondering if there was more to it (E.g. a cultural artefact), but I suppose not then.

Re: 'W' Considered Harmful

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Post by troels » Sun, Nov 03, 2013, 10:46 PM UTC

Zenst wrote: post #45

bazzargh wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would have is abbreviated "would've", which is pronounced similarly. I expect people get it from hearing that before seeing it written.

You may very well be right. I use it without thinking and with that I suppose it is a form of slang variation in usage. Though my grammer and spelling are below par and I do find my native English language a fun feild of rules with so many exceptions that if it was code it would be the worst code ever. That and even today we still do not have a definitive grammer/spell checker that can understand all context and usag…

Thanks. If you also use it in speech, then it strongly suggests that it's simply because would've sounds similar to would of. To humour me, would you mind saying where you're from?

Re: 'W' Considered Harmful

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Post by Zenst » Mon, Nov 04, 2013, 12:18 AM UTC

troels wrote: post #49

Zenst wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You may very well be right. I use it without thinking and with that I suppose it is a form of slang variation in usage. Though my grammer and spelling are below par and I do find my native English language a fun feild of rules with so many exceptions that if it was code it would be the worst code ever. That and even today we still do not have a definitive grammer/spell checker that can understand all context and usag…

Thanks. If you also use it in speech, then it strongly suggests that it's simply because would've sounds similar to would of. To humour me, would you mind saying where you're from?

England, East Anglia