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My really successful, unfundable, piece of shit startup I hate to love

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Re: My really successful, unfundable, piece of shit startup I hate to love

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I get that people are trying to be helpful, and think that's great. But this blog post was awesome, raw, and captured something that so few of us can really relate to. Dude grinds for 10 years, keeps grinding, doesn't know where to go but will probably keep grinding. "Twicsy, you son of a bitch. You frustrate me so. I love you, but oh how I hate to love you." Shine on, buddy. Best of luck!

Spot on man! I gotta admit the website is meh (although what can I say, I've never published+hosted a website before) but that story is pretty amazing!

Maybe OP should try to publish an ebook on his 10 year adventure?

Re: My really successful, unfundable, piece of shit startup I hate to love

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You should make it look better, imo.

How would that solve the issue of it not making money?

It might solve the "unfundable" and "piece of shit" adjectives in the title.

pretty much the whole Internet is built on the idea that if you can get metrics like his up, and get funded, you can figure out monetization with the help of your expert investors.

Re: My really successful, unfundable, piece of shit startup I hate to love

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have very little ability to change the UI because I am a bad web developer and every change I make seems to make things worse. But thanks for the placement suggestion, maybe that is worth a try. I contacted BuySellAds a while back and they passed on the opportunity. They said their target audience doesn't line up well with Twicsy. Or some crap like that :)

@dumbfounder how can i get in touch regarding buying space on your site?

There is an email at the bottom of every page on Twicsy. Unfortunately you need to jump through a hoop after that because I am trying to avoid spam, but there you go!

Re: My really successful, unfundable, piece of shit startup I hate to love

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I can heavily relate to this with one of my early projects, Jellibug. It aggregated celebrity pictures from Instagram, Twitter, etc and at one point had 1M+ pictures and 250k+ visitors/month. Except it didn't make money and became a "piece of shit startup I hate to love". I stopped working on it about a year ago and finally shut it down last month. Almost all traffic to it was organic, just like Twicsy. And it was mo…

I can't ditch the piece of shit I love!

Re: My really successful, unfundable, piece of shit startup I hate to love

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My general anti-B2C bias may be showing, but unless you've discovered a new core interaction for people (Instagrammy) I'm betting the 6 million visits a month is basically just a function of having a lot of content about Justin Bieber (and a zillion other topics) which is beating Twitter because Twitter has relatively poor SEO (for a reason). This sort of suggests that the momentary attention of 6 million people is w…

I will keep Twicsy going until it makes much less than no sense at all!!!!!!!

But, I am already working on the next thing and we have generated more revenue in the last few months than Twicsy/Dumbfind/Searchles did in 10 years.

Re: My really successful, unfundable, piece of shit startup I hate to love

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He could do something like the new Pinterest ads. You search for a pic on Twitter and inside the results is a picture with an ad with a relative theme.

Pinterest is so hot right now. Twicsy is so not hot right now. That makes a huge difference when it comes to launching products like that. They also have much better engagement.

Re: My really successful, unfundable, piece of shit startup I hate to love

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I can tell you're frustrated with this Project, but I still think you deserve some congrats. Good job! It's not easy to build something and get that much traffic. I think the frustration stems from the platform it's built on, and how hard it is to monetize on that platform. Since the content is basically given away for free, advertising is your only option. And since they advertise as well... it’s tough to pull it off. I can think of three basic options here (and I'm sure there are many many more):

1. Keep it running, keep it free, and use it as a "Bullet Point" project to increase your perceived value on other projects that have the potential to monetize more successfully

2. Go the complete opposite and just start charging money for it, and see what happens. Of course you risk losing traffic and/or the whole thing imploding, but you never know until you try

3. Just scrap it and re-use the Tech to build a different product that is focused on a niche market that you believe can monetize better. Perhaps News related businesses that would find value in an easy /easier way to find Images for the stories they write

Re: My really successful, unfundable, piece of shit startup I hate to love

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My general anti-B2C bias may be showing, but unless you've discovered a new core interaction for people (Instagrammy) I'm betting the 6 million visits a month is basically just a function of having a lot of content about Justin Bieber (and a zillion other topics) which is beating Twitter because Twitter has relatively poor SEO (for a reason). This sort of suggests that the momentary attention of 6 million people is w…

I will keep Twicsy going until it makes much less than no sense at all!!!!!!! But, I am already working on the next thing and we have generated more revenue in the last few months than Twicsy/Dumbfind/Searchles did in 10 years.

That's incredible, congratulations!

Care to share what you're working on? Or at least what process led you to the new project?

Re: My really successful, unfundable, piece of shit startup I hate to love

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

@dumbfounder how can i get in touch regarding buying space on your site?

There is an email at the bottom of every page on Twicsy. Unfortunately you need to jump through a hoop after that because I am trying to avoid spam, but there you go!

This comment thread in particular may provide more information about your challenge in finding monetary success than your entire wonderfully written blog post.

Here, in quick succession you first suggest that you have very little ability to change the UI because you are a bad developer, then quickly follow that up with a confession to somebody who wants to give you money, that you've made it annoying to contact you because you don't want spam.

I'm trying to be helpful here, not trying to be an a$$, and I understand that you're frustrated with your current situation with Twicsy and your generally long-challenging experiences making a mint with your startups.

However, take a deep breath and realise you've done 3 times what so many have failed to do even once. You've launched 3 products which have seen some manner of success, two raised rounds of financing, and the other has a good volume of traffic. Give yourself a bit of credit on the positive.

Now the negative.

It is said time and time again, execution is everything. You should know that. I just took a look at Twicsy, and honestly the design isn't that bad, but it could use a touch up. If you aren't good at 'web development', get somebody to help you. I'm sure you can find a local developer who would like to have twicsy on their portfolio, or spend a few bucks and get it done.

Secondly, make it easy for people to advertise on the site. If you are going through an ad network, you're not doing the work anyway or put up a contact form on the site, or even put your e-mail in your HN profile. You want to be a success, ABC/S/whatever. You're missing opportunities where people want to give you money, and if you're missing those opportunities, I assume you're also missing opportunities to sell.

The 'build it and the money will come rolling in' days are long gone. Nobody is an overnight success, particularly those that make it look easiest. If you want success, you'll have to work for it. Or else, you'll have to settle for telling everybody about your 'almost successes'.

As I said, I hope this isn't coming across poorly, as I'm truly trying to help you, this thread just made me make a bunch of assumptions about you, and if I'm right, hopefully it will help you or somebody else.

You've struck a nerve with me here, which is why my writing may have a tinge of hostility, but maybe a small crack of the whip will wake you up to your current opportunities and how you can seize them. All the best.

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