Freenode has blocked the Mibbit client permanently.

Post by sho » Fri, Jun 19, 2009, 3:43 PM UTC

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Statement by freenode because of the block http://blog.freenode.net/2009/06/new-freenode-webchat-and-wh... Analysis: Seems like mibbit was being abused and it was difficult for freenode to combat the abuse. Freenode eventually just got fed up with all the time required to fix the problem. It was too easy to get on mibbit to evade a ban to screw with a channel.

They also claim that the communication and collaboration with Mibbit wasn't easy. Direct link to their new web IRC client: http://webchat.freenode.net/

Post by hachiya » Fri, Jun 19, 2009, 3:46 PM UTC

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The reason people are moving to the new #startups is not to use mibbit's client (I'm using Colloquy on the Mac), but rather to show solidarity for axod.

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Post by Jem » Fri, Jun 19, 2009, 3:53 PM UTC

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The reason people are moving to the new #startups is not to use mibbit's client (I'm using Colloquy on the Mac), but rather to show solidarity for axod.

people are not willingly moving, they are forced to move. So are they showing support or forced to 'show support' ?

Post by Jem » Fri, Jun 19, 2009, 3:56 PM UTC

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As someone who has been placed in the position of semi-regularly banning mibbit from freenode OSS project channels due to abusive users, I can't see how this is a bad thing. The quality of user was exceptionally low, and "easy webchat" simply doesn't seem like a strong value proposition for the technical users that frequent the network.

Agreed. Maybe it's not very nice, but I kind of think that anyone incapable of installing a proper IRC client probably shouldn't be using IRC in the first place. The situation on, say, the ruby-talk mailing list is analogous; whenever you see a really, really stupid question, check out the submitter - chances are it's through one of the web interfaces to the ML. The necessity of installing and configuring an IRC clie…

Post by davidw » Fri, Jun 19, 2009, 3:59 PM UTC

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* Going http is a nice way to get around firewalls. Sure, I can tunnel through SSH to my server, but that is a bit harder and not everyone has a server to tunnel to. * Part of axod's idea, from what I gather, is simply to provide a nice chat system, that happens to have IRC as a backend. Would you say that people who can't install a proper nntp/smtp/whatever client shouldn't be allowed either? How 'bout twitter, to p…

I wouldn't say shouldn't , but I would say that a slightly higher barrier to entry serves as a good first-pass filter for technically-oriented communities.