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Riot.js – A 1kb client-side MVP framework

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Re: Riot.js – A 1kb client-side MVP framework

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Post by tipiirai »

jashkenas wrote: post #37

While I'd usually prefer to be nice in the mornings ... starting off with those benchmarks got my goat. So. This sort of thing is a beautiful demonstration of marketing, big promises, and bombastic rhetoric in open source. But one of the best things about open source is that you don't have to take such claims at face value. If you actually look at the source, you'll find: https://github.com/moot/riotjs/blob/29ae687ca…

Thanks for the feedback. Maybe I can use some of that on my next update. These implementation details and issues are rather easy to address.

I would not write my own event library from scratch if I can take advantage of jQuery. Can you elaborate what's wrong with proxying?

Re: Riot.js – A 1kb client-side MVP framework

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Post by sergiotapia »

jashkenas wrote: post #37

While I'd usually prefer to be nice in the mornings ... starting off with those benchmarks got my goat. So. This sort of thing is a beautiful demonstration of marketing, big promises, and bombastic rhetoric in open source. But one of the best things about open source is that you don't have to take such claims at face value. If you actually look at the source, you'll find: https://github.com/moot/riotjs/blob/29ae687ca…

You say that like it's a bad thing. I like the idea that riot.js is small enough that it 'outsources' it's meaty functions to jQuery (a library you most likely have in your project already). It means fewer bugs and less work for you! More time to enjoy life. There are tons of very smart developers working on jQuery,why replicate their work on riot.js?

If your project doesn't use jQuery feel free to use the right tool for the right job - I can't remember the last time I worked on a web project that didn't have jQuery.

Re: Riot.js – A 1kb client-side MVP framework

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Post by JLehtinen »

jashkenas wrote: post #37

While I'd usually prefer to be nice in the mornings ... starting off with those benchmarks got my goat. So. This sort of thing is a beautiful demonstration of marketing, big promises, and bombastic rhetoric in open source. But one of the best things about open source is that you don't have to take such claims at face value. If you actually look at the source, you'll find: https://github.com/moot/riotjs/blob/29ae687ca…

> There's almost literally nothing here

True. There's 0.85kb + license.

Re: Riot.js – A 1kb client-side MVP framework

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Post by tipiirai »

sugerman wrote: post #40
tipiirai wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Developing with Riot is completely different from other frameworks. It's just 3 functions and after 1.0 the API will be hardened. It's more of a design pattern than a framework. The application developer is the biggest culprit for breaking things.

Calling this a framework is a bit of a stretch isn't it? I don't see how a few helper functions that rely on a very large library constitute a framework for doing anything at all.

Yeah. I guess it's more of an library, but it promotes the use of MVP design pattern / way of coding – and can thus be interpreted as a framework. I might change it to library if it makes more sense.

Re: Riot.js – A 1kb client-side MVP framework

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Post by courtneycouch0 »

jashkenas wrote: post #37

While I'd usually prefer to be nice in the mornings ... starting off with those benchmarks got my goat. So. This sort of thing is a beautiful demonstration of marketing, big promises, and bombastic rhetoric in open source. But one of the best things about open source is that you don't have to take such claims at face value. If you actually look at the source, you'll find: https://github.com/moot/riotjs/blob/29ae687ca…

> There's almost literally nothing here

I think that's the point.

Re: Riot.js – A 1kb client-side MVP framework

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Post by Jgrubb »

gbaygon wrote: post #33

[off topic] i find very distracting that the title in the page changes when "Someone is writing..." a comment.

This is the second article I've read on this site, and the second time that I've noticed after about 5 minutes that my computer's fan sounds like it's about to take off. Disconnect gets stuck in some kind of loop on their site and I feel like it's because of that feature (edit: because I've never seen that feature or that Disconnect freakout on any other site).

Re: Riot.js – A 1kb client-side MVP framework

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Post by ojr »

sergiotapia wrote: post #42
jashkenas wrote: post #37

While I'd usually prefer to be nice in the mornings ... starting off with those benchmarks got my goat. So. This sort of thing is a beautiful demonstration of marketing, big promises, and bombastic rhetoric in open source. But one of the best things about open source is that you don't have to take such claims at face value. If you actually look at the source, you'll find: https://github.com/moot/riotjs/blob/29ae687ca…

You say that like it's a bad thing. I like the idea that riot.js is small enough that it 'outsources' it's meaty functions to jQuery (a library you most likely have in your project already). It means fewer bugs and less work for you! More time to enjoy life. There are tons of very smart developers working on jQuery,why replicate their work on riot.js? If your project doesn't use jQuery feel free to use the right tool…

plain jQuery is harder to maintain and scale hence why the javascript frameworks were built in the first place
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