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Why Meteor will kill Ruby on Rails

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Re: Why Meteor will kill Ruby on Rails

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> Let's be real, Javascript is the #1 language on Github and for good reason - it runs everywhere. Cancer is #1 disease in the world, but that doesn't mean I want it.

I choose to use javascript, nobody chooses to have cancer.

I don't like the analogy because it's not a laughing matter. Nevertheless there is no choice of script language in browser either.

Re: Why Meteor will kill Ruby on Rails

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I'd love to see some examples of these apps, are you able to please share?

Sure: http://www.shinglecentral.com/ http://assistant.io/ http://lister.io/ Are just a few from the last 1.5 months.

the details pages are all blank for me in FF: http://www.shinglecentral.com/opportunity/HwMGk8B2KgmCppn85

Re: Why Meteor will kill Ruby on Rails

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I'm sure you aren't going to worry too much, but you know some of us only see this: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7633426/shinglecentral.p... https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7633426/assistantio.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7633426/listerio.png

This is a discussion about a javascript framework. Meteor relys on javascript on the client and the server so how should it work with noscript? If you want to use a javascript tool you´ll have to add an exception for this tool.

There's no reason why server-side javascript cannot generate static HTML.

Re: Why Meteor will kill Ruby on Rails

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Sure: http://www.shinglecentral.com/ http://assistant.io/ http://lister.io/ Are just a few from the last 1.5 months.

I'm sure you aren't going to worry too much, but you know some of us only see this: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7633426/shinglecentral.p... https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7633426/assistantio.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7633426/listerio.png

Ha in 2013, you don't run JavaScript in your web browser and you're not using Lynx. People are getting soft.

Re: Why Meteor will kill Ruby on Rails

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> And to be clear, Node is not a 100% perfect platform either. Absolutely. But as a software piece, I think it can apply itself to the web more easily than Ruby currently can. > Of all the options available, why Meteor? Right, there are plenty of options, MEAN is getting nicely popularized. You also have Derby. > Like someone on this thread said, it has a lot more evolving to do, to even become on par with rails in t…

What is MEAN? It's particularly hard to Google, even with additional keywords.

The Mean Stack: MongoDB, Express JS, AngularJS, and NodeJS [1]

[1] http://blog.mongodb.org/post/49262866911/the-mean-stack-mong...

Re: Why Meteor will kill Ruby on Rails

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Sure: http://www.shinglecentral.com/ http://assistant.io/ http://lister.io/ Are just a few from the last 1.5 months.

cough in the UK shingles is the name of a very uncomfortable medical condition... :D

We have that in America too caused by the varicella-zoster virus (aka chickenpox). That's not the first thing I thought of though - I thought it was going to be a site to help you find a roofing company. The "hang out your shingle" definition was the last thing I would've thought of.

Re: Why Meteor will kill Ruby on Rails

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> And to be clear, Node is not a 100% perfect platform either. Absolutely. But as a software piece, I think it can apply itself to the web more easily than Ruby currently can. > Of all the options available, why Meteor? Right, there are plenty of options, MEAN is getting nicely popularized. You also have Derby. > Like someone on this thread said, it has a lot more evolving to do, to even become on par with rails in t…

What is MEAN? It's particularly hard to Google, even with additional keywords.

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Re: Why Meteor will kill Ruby on Rails

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It concerns me that the selling points of Meteor are the same as the old selling points of ASP.Net. - Both seek to make the divide between server and client "seamless", marshaling data back and forth so that you can "call" server code from the client and vice-versa. - Both tout the ability to do all your development in a single language - Both claim impressive gains for RAD ASP.Net had some impressive demos for its t…

How does a story entitled, "How Meteor will kill Ruby on Rails" turn into a bitch-fest about ASP.NET?

But I have to admit that it is pretty funny that comparing a framework to ASP.NET is apparently the nerd equivalent of insulting someone's mother.

Re: Why Meteor will kill Ruby on Rails

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Thank you for your peaceful tone (unlike the author's). But I think there are a lot of opinions mixed up with your facts: >The sad thing about Rails is it largely stagnated for some time >You just have to do so much glueing >These are solved problems on node And to be clear, Node is not a 100% perfect platform either. >I think the author is attempting to elude to the cargo-cult that hit Rails will migrate to Meteor.…

> And to be clear, Node is not a 100% perfect platform either. Absolutely. But as a software piece, I think it can apply itself to the web more easily than Ruby currently can. > Of all the options available, why Meteor? Right, there are plenty of options, MEAN is getting nicely popularized. You also have Derby. > Like someone on this thread said, it has a lot more evolving to do, to even become on par with rails in t…

First you say

> . You just have to do so much glueing

In your previous post. Then you list out MEAN(Mongo, Express, Angular, Node), which is all glueing. I have used this stack extensively, and I must say its not even close to Rails. In fact it's not even on the same planet.

After all you guys finish your piddly todo lists, start trying to write some real business logic in Node, and see how far it gets you. There is a reason the Meteor team chose fibers. You can async.waterfall all you want but structuring your code in a synchronous manner, lets you get stuff done.

People tout Node and Meteor for real time stuff. I could do similar things with SSE and Rails/Ember or Angular. The users of your applications don't care if you use Websockets and really most of the time you don't even need Websockets, you just need SSE or long polling.

Re: Why Meteor will kill Ruby on Rails

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> And to be clear, Node is not a 100% perfect platform either. Absolutely. But as a software piece, I think it can apply itself to the web more easily than Ruby currently can. > Of all the options available, why Meteor? Right, there are plenty of options, MEAN is getting nicely popularized. You also have Derby. > Like someone on this thread said, it has a lot more evolving to do, to even become on par with rails in t…

What is MEAN? It's particularly hard to Google, even with additional keywords.

Mongo, Express, Angular, Node http://www.mean.io/
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