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Why Meteor will kill Ruby on Rails

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Re: Why Meteor will kill Ruby on Rails

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>Do you know how long it takes to build a Facebook backend clone in rails? Maybe a day? A basic social network clone? Sure, maybe a day. But to emulate all the features Facebook has would probably take well over a month if done alone, even if the dev was very experienced with Rails.

Well over a month to clone all of facebook. I hope you don't estimate as a living. To clone facebook would take well over a year.

Ten years I say! Building facebook would take ten years, no less!

Re: Why Meteor will kill Ruby on Rails

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Well over a month to clone all of facebook. I hope you don't estimate as a living. To clone facebook would take well over a year.

Ten years I say! Building facebook would take ten years, no less!

I could do it in five.

Re: Why Meteor will kill Ruby on Rails

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Well over a month to clone all of facebook. I hope you don't estimate as a living. To clone facebook would take well over a year.

Ten years I say! Building facebook would take ten years, no less!

Fellas. The answer is clearly 100 years. Some of you will burn out, some of you will get divorced, but in the end, you'll have a shitty facebook.

Re: Why Meteor will kill Ruby on Rails

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I can go into large detail why calling it incredibly painful and unpleasant is nothing but hyperbole though. Have you tried building a to-do MVC app, at least?

GP is expressing a personal language preference. I also find JS horrific to work with (and I've worked with it a lot). But that doesn't mean you can't or shouldn't enjoy it.

Horrific is really stretching it too though. I know it's Halloween or whatever but let's just discuss it on technical merits before passing misinformation like that.

Re: Why Meteor will kill Ruby on Rails

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As a relative newcomer to web dev, I find Meteor very challenging to work with. It's got too much magic going on. Part of that is the simple fact that the documentation, while sufficient for pros, simply doesn't hold your hand. At all. And beyond the documentation there's a dearth of other resources for finding out how to do things. The community is too small to be effective, and any books which have been written are out-of-date already. Answers to questions on StackOverflow normally don't even apply anymore because the platform has changed so much. This is all very typical pre-1.0 stuff, so the point is that I'm not sure Meteor is maturing fast enough. It might be too late to the party once it finally stabilizes.

Either way, I strongly dispute the implied claim that Meteor is easy to learn. It certainly is not. Rails makes a lot of intuitive sense--at least to me--whereas Meteor doesn't. As the author mentions it has the whole kitchen sink approach going on, and that makes it very unapproachable to someone like me...because it's difficult to make sense of unless I understand all the components on which it's built.

So is Meteor cool? Absolutely. And it could be great if it matures fast enough to still be relevant, and if it manages to be associated with some truly tremendous learning resources which not only display its potential, but assist in learning the intricacies of the platform. I worked my way through the Discover Meteor book and was impressed by all the magic Meteor slings, but I didn't really understand much of why and how it worked.

So we'll see. But for now, Rails is untouchable.

Re: Why Meteor will kill Ruby on Rails

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What about long-term maintainability of a large application? Rails has its issues there, but a body of best practices has grown up around maintaining long-lived rails apps. I wonder what the author's opinion would look like were it building the single app that is core to their business, and maintaining it for 3 years, instead of spitting out a Meteor app for a client every 6 weeks?

Re: Why Meteor will kill Ruby on Rails

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This is bullshit. In my whole experience as a full stack developer, after having tried various technologies and languages and frameworks - including ones built with PHP, Ruby, Scala, Javascript and Golang, I can this say with full confidence and can afford to put my name and credibility to stake - Nothing is going to replace Ruby on rails anytime soon. I wish something would, but nothing at the moment, is even close…

You have no idea what you're talking about. Like, your whole post is false
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