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Re: Here's how I deal with users who steal

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As an agnostic white man who is also a feminist, this comment makes me sad. So sad in fact that I created an account just to come say something about it. There are undoubtedly angry people, willing to lash out at anyone they think may have wronged them, and some of those people may identify as feminists. That doesn't mean that feminists hate men, white or otherwise, anymore than men hate women as a class of people. H…

>That doesn't mean that feminists hate men, white or otherwise, anymore than men hate women as a class of people. That's a nice false equivalence you've got there. >However, white men have a lot of cultural privilege Oh goody, you're hiding behind the boogieman, aka "privilege". In modern, "western" culture there's really no cultural privilege for men. Unless we're going to count the privilege to be drafted, or murde…

>Unless we're going to count the privilege to be drafted, or murdered, or die on the job with nary a twitch of the feminist diaspora.

There's the privilege to not be raped.

Or, the privilege to not be sexually harassed, on the street by strangers, in the office by people you have to see every day, or anywhere else.

The privilege to wear clothing that is comfortable and cheap and socially accepted, and to wear that clothing without being judged as having "given up" or being slobbish.

There's the privilege to register at a conference without being assumed to be the boyfriend of the co-worker you're at the table getting badges with.

There's the privilege to get a job, fellowship, or acceptance to a school without being seen as an "affirmative action" choice who must not be really good enough for whatever position you've obtained.

The privilege to speak up for yourself without being called a bitch, and to do so on the Internet without receiving rape threats.

The privilege to grow up with a massive and wide variety of role models who are active, dynamic agents enforcing their will on the world, rather than submissive prizes awarded to those who wear down their "resistance" until they submit.

It is utterly laughable to suggest that being a man does not come with a huge, incalculable amount of privilege, in any part of the world.

It is insane to do so in the technology community, which has been acting to expel what few women attempted to inhabit it (probably not by intention, but certainly by result).

Re: Here's how I deal with users who steal

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It depends on the video game or the porn in question. A Bible is going to prime for social/moral thoughts and feelings in a very significant way. For a religious person I doubt there's anything that could make attitudes about morality more accessible, and accessibility is almost the whole story for behavior. I think if a video game loading screen told you "Piracy is WRONG!" it would be ineffective in GTA, neutral in…

Feminists really aren't any better than religious people. As an atheist white man, I'm hated by both, but I'll sooner respect a christian than a feminist.

The next time there's a question about misogyny in the tech community, I'm going to link to this comment.

Re: Here's how I deal with users who steal

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>That doesn't mean that feminists hate men, white or otherwise, anymore than men hate women as a class of people. That's a nice false equivalence you've got there. >However, white men have a lot of cultural privilege Oh goody, you're hiding behind the boogieman, aka "privilege". In modern, "western" culture there's really no cultural privilege for men. Unless we're going to count the privilege to be drafted, or murde…

>Unless we're going to count the privilege to be drafted, or murdered, or die on the job with nary a twitch of the feminist diaspora. There's the privilege to not be raped. Or, the privilege to not be sexually harassed, on the street by strangers, in the office by people you have to see every day, or anywhere else. The privilege to wear clothing that is comfortable and cheap and socially accepted, and to wear that cl…

>There's the privilege to not be raped.

Now if only it weren't for the fact that the majority of rapes are institutional, ie. in prison, and are committed by women against women. Or the fact that rape laws have been shaped by feminism in a way to make men the only ones capable of raping in an overwhelming majority of sexual encounters -- rape being defined by the likes of the FBI as forced penetration with a penis or object. Or that male rape victims are routinely marginalized in media. Or that the same illegal conduct by a male is "rape" but is only "sexual assualt" when committed by a female. Or the utter disproportionality of punishment for male verse female perpetrators. Or the various "rape shield" laws that allow the accused to be dragged through the mud in the press while "protecting" the accuser, even when the accuser is proven false. Or that women have started to view calling sexual encounters rape as a "get out of trouble free, card.

>Or, the privilege to not be sexually harassed, on the street by strangers, in the office by people you have to see every day, or anywhere else.

Yes, men are never sexual harassed. Neeeeever.

>The privilege to wear clothing that is comfortable and cheap and socially accepted, and to wear that clothing without being judged as having "given up" or being slobbish.

Once again, a non-gendered "privilege"

>There's the privilege to get a job, fellowship, or acceptance to a school without being seen as an "affirmative action" choice who must not be really good enough for whatever position you've obtained.

Having been involved, first hand, on both the applicant and hiring side I've seen the results of forced "equality" in hiring. It rarely increases talent and often harms it.

And on and on...Your list is full of tropes that are half truths or ignore the two-sided nature of things. I'm glad the echo-chamber of self-victimization is working out for you though.

Re: Here's how I deal with users who steal

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>That doesn't mean that feminists hate men, white or otherwise, anymore than men hate women as a class of people. That's a nice false equivalence you've got there. >However, white men have a lot of cultural privilege Oh goody, you're hiding behind the boogieman, aka "privilege". In modern, "western" culture there's really no cultural privilege for men. Unless we're going to count the privilege to be drafted, or murde…

>Unless we're going to count the privilege to be drafted, or murdered, or die on the job with nary a twitch of the feminist diaspora. There's the privilege to not be raped. Or, the privilege to not be sexually harassed, on the street by strangers, in the office by people you have to see every day, or anywhere else. The privilege to wear clothing that is comfortable and cheap and socially accepted, and to wear that cl…

If anything you're being sexist by classifying this as a gender issue rather then a societal issue. Many of the things you listed effect both men and women. Sexual harassment and advances go both ways, for one. And if you speak up as a man you're considered an 'asshole'. No different then a 'bitch'. It's just childish terminology that really shouldn't be tolerated in the workplace to begin with. Women are equal now. Nobody sees hiring a woman as 'affirmative action' they are seen as somebody who will be an asset to the company. Somebody who can earn money. From what I've read recently their pay across the board is the same or better then their male counterparts, but don't quote me on this. You talk like this is the 50s, and it makes me wonder where you live that is so far in the past? In other parts of the world I will admit, being a man still carries a lot of advantages - not so much in the US.

Re: Here's how I deal with users who steal

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I read this article with interest and I have to say that this is a slap in the face of everyone who honestly pays for the software. It's like inviting a burglar back to your house the next day for dinner. Opportunity makes thieves, period. If someone is so broke that he can't afford to pay, and this someone is an honest person, he would probably ask you for a special discount, explaining his tight financial situation.

Poverty is no excuse to steal (at least not in my book). Not so long ago I lost everything I worked for in the past 30+ years, including my home. Do you think I steal my way through live now? No I don't, because I was raised that honesty is the most important thing in live-and that's what I taught my kids and that's what I tell my grandkids. What message do you try to convey when you treat thieves the same way than honest customers? I sure wouldn't take my money to a business like this(if I had the money). I believe it invites people to keep stealing from you, because you're asking for it. Dude get real, that's the wrong way to promote yourself by letting everyone know what a good heart you have. Yeah, I know times are hard, but does that give you a free ticket to steal? Absolutely not. And then you have the nerve to compare yourself to the cop in Florida...who indeed did a good thing. This was about food not a frigging piece of software.

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