What's wrong with bitmessage?
Announcing The Dark Mail Alliance – Founded by Silent Circle and Lavabit
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Re: Announcing The Dark Mail Alliance – Founded by Silent Circle and Lavabit
#12As much as I hate promotion emails, I do hope they make sure that companies can still send mass "dark mails" securely, rather than sending the one by one...
Wait wait wait!
Requiring very strong encryption may help make spam email computationally infeasible.
That alone might be worth it!
Re: Announcing The Dark Mail Alliance – Founded by Silent Circle and Lavabit
#13Anyone gone through the checklist yet?
http://craphound.com/spamsolutions.txt
Re: Announcing The Dark Mail Alliance – Founded by Silent Circle and Lavabit
#14From the talk that just finished at Inboxlove, it appears they will use XMPP for transport, some JSON and encrypted cloud storage.
You receive a message via XMPP that an email is waiting for you on the cloud storage (similar to MMS). This is also a good solution for the spam problem, I think.
They have a working prototype, a whitepaper is forthcoming and the community is welcome to improve the new standard.
Re: Announcing The Dark Mail Alliance – Founded by Silent Circle and Lavabit
#15If you were interested in seeing any details whatsoever about the protocol there are none either in the article or on the official website.
They appear to be talking about this thing:
https://silentcircle.com/web/scimp-protocol/
I thought we didn't want to use the NIST curves (like ECC-384?) anymore... seems something like Curve25519 might be better.
Re: Announcing The Dark Mail Alliance – Founded by Silent Circle and Lavabit
#16I am definitely no security expert, but from my feeling it seems as if unsecure protocol + secure messaging layer is much more successful in practical applications than purely secure protocols. Therefore my believe would be that improving existing secure messaging layers would help the world much more than creating another secure protocol which nobody will use because it would require to replace the whole infrastructure. Especially Email seems to be something that is unlikely to go away, because of its long history, huge infrastructure and simplicity.
Re: Announcing The Dark Mail Alliance – Founded by Silent Circle and Lavabit
#17As much as I hate promotion emails, I do hope they make sure that companies can still send mass "dark mails" securely, rather than sending the one by one...
Wait wait wait! Requiring very strong encryption may help make spam email computationally infeasible. That alone might be worth it!
I thought even extremely strong encryption was computationally quite light- it's cracking the crypto that takes computing muscle.
Re: Announcing The Dark Mail Alliance – Founded by Silent Circle and Lavabit
#18If you were interested in seeing any details whatsoever about the protocol there are none either in the article or on the official website.
They appear to be talking about this thing: https://silentcircle.com/web/scimp-protocol/ I thought we didn't want to use the NIST curves (like ECC-384?) anymore... seems something like Curve25519 might be better.
We're working on moving away from NIST curves as a default.
http://silentcircle.wordpress.com/2013/10/17/this-one-goes-t...
Re: Announcing The Dark Mail Alliance – Founded by Silent Circle and Lavabit
#19What's wrong with bitmessage?
Only solves a subset of the email problem, IIUC.
Re: Announcing The Dark Mail Alliance – Founded by Silent Circle and Lavabit
#20Anyone gone through the checklist yet? http://craphound.com/spamsolutions.txt
What's the relevance? This isn't a spam fighting endeavor.