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Ionicons – Free and beautiful icons, MIT licensed

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Re: Ionicons – Free and beautiful icons, MIT licensed

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post #56

Oh look another page full of unicode placeholder symbols. When did the web become a place that is hostile to people who want to choose the fonts they read things in?

What? Not sure what you mean. The fonts use unicode characters for the icons like any other icon font. Anything we could do to make it more friendly?

Re: Ionicons – Free and beautiful icons, MIT licensed

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post #38
post #16

It seems a little dangerous to include logos for various companies. I could see the likes of Reddit and Y Combinator turning a blind eye, but would we expect the same from Google, Microsoft, and Apple? I am no legal expert, but wouldn't those icons present a long term problem if this project were to truly become successful?

Don't many of these companies have specific terms on how their logos should be used on external sites to represent things like platform-specific apps? I'm not sure if custom-made fonts would be included in those terms, but I know these companies aren't dead set against there being no external usage.

Custom fonts are fine as long as they match the guidelines. I think they will have some issue-- mostly the ones that look different than the original icons (i.e. the white outlined versions).

https://twitter.com/logo

https://github.com/logos

https://www.facebookbrand.com/dos-donts

http://www.apple.com/legal/sales-support/certification/docs/...

Page 12 -- No go "Do not use the Apple logo alone in channel affiliate communications, including web pages." (I.e. You can't just show the Apple Icon)

https://www.dropbox.com/branding

Yahoo's icon actually doesn't look like Yahoos brand icon so I would call that one a pass

http://developer.android.com/distribute/googleplay/promote/b...

Pretty much no restrictions for the robot-- accept you need attribution according to Creative Commons 3.0 Attribution License.

http://developer.linkedin.com/documents/branding-guidelines

Linked in is specific in what the logo can be used for, instead of what it looks like. So this font is fine, but even in the preview the logo should point to a linked in page or profile.

http://www.youtube.com/yt/brand/using-logo.html

The logo the author used isn't the one trademarked-- fair use here.

https://vine.co/logo

"Use only the official, unmodified files to represent our brand." So this ones a no (though it's confusing... what if the author used the original glyph? Is conversion considered modification? I suppose)

http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/legal/intellectualproperty/Tr...

Unless that glyph isn't trademarked it's not okay to use, even the logos mentioned state:

"Do not use in... Web sites for any purpose except pursuant to an express written trademark license from Microsoft."

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Promotional_graphics

Bitcoins assets are fair game.

http://dribbble.com/branding

Seems to be okay, since colors are 'encouraged' and the gylph is shown as ones that are okay to use.

http://www.reddit.com/about/alien/

Absolutely no go: "We require a license to use these logos in anything outside reddit, both for free and for profit."

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Summing up here I was surprised to learn that the restrictions are more stringent than I thought. If I were the author I'd clean up the alternate version and remove the Glyphs that aren't specifically allowed, otherwise anyone who uses your font is technically opening themselves up to trademark violations.

Re: Ionicons – Free and beautiful icons, MIT licensed

#64
post #34

Lovely, thanks. I have to feel like it's the end of an era when new icon sets don't include a floppy disk, though. :`/

Isn't it still a valid icon to indicate saving though? Is there another better representation of saving?

What is saving these days aside from "We've bizarrely held your changes since the last time you clicked this button shaped like an antiquity aside just in case you wanted to risk losing them all by navigating away."?

Re: Ionicons – Free and beautiful icons, MIT licensed

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post #30
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not sure if the "But Mom, all my friends were doing it" defense will hold up in court. In all seriousness, they are claiming copyright over an icon that is clearly meant to represent a brand's copyrighted and trademarked logo. Then they are rereleasing that logo under a MIT license. I have never gone to law school, but I can't imagine that Apple's lawyers will be thrilled by that.

I understand, but it's not always so cut and dry. Seeing that a popular almost identical non-controversial product is doing the same thing without any legal action is a vote of confidence in my book. Having been part of a hobbyist organization who has had experience with dealing with large corporations who hold copyrights (in music), I am privy to information you might be surprised at what companies choose to let sli…

Different kinds of IP have different properties in different places. In particular, in some cases, the rights continue until they run out unless they are deliberately relinquished, while in other cases the rights must be defended or they can be weakened. Just because you've seen organisations let copyright infringement slide in the past, that doesn't necessarily mean they would let something like trademark use go unchallenged in the same way.

Re: Ionicons – Free and beautiful icons, MIT licensed

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post #16

It seems a little dangerous to include logos for various companies. I could see the likes of Reddit and Y Combinator turning a blind eye, but would we expect the same from Google, Microsoft, and Apple? I am no legal expert, but wouldn't those icons present a long term problem if this project were to truly become successful?

I'm disappointed that there's no penguin.

Re: Ionicons – Free and beautiful icons, MIT licensed

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post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't it still a valid icon to indicate saving though? Is there another better representation of saving?

What is saving these days aside from "We've bizarrely held your changes since the last time you clicked this button shaped like an antiquity aside just in case you wanted to risk losing them all by navigating away."?

What's git-commit aside from "We've bizarrely held your changes since the last time you ran this command via an antiquated interface just in case you wanted to risk losing them all by accidentally running rm in the wrong directory?"

Being able to screw around with things without fear of recovering not being able to recover your original content isn't an outdated concept.

Re: Ionicons – Free and beautiful icons, MIT licensed

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post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't it still a valid icon to indicate saving though? Is there another better representation of saving?

What is saving these days aside from "We've bizarrely held your changes since the last time you clicked this button shaped like an antiquity aside just in case you wanted to risk losing them all by navigating away."?

Maybe something like "please force my changes to be saved to disk now, even if your autosave would not normally sync for another little while", or "please tag the version as of this moment as a relevant consistent state"? There's still merit in the idea of "saving" even now (and even before allowing for the possibility of buggy implementations of always-save).

Re: Ionicons – Free and beautiful icons, MIT licensed

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post #59

Unfortunately, the icons look terrible on my Windows machine: http://i.imgur.com/WeTwez6.png (for example) Windows 7, Chrome 31.0.1650.34 beta-m.

That's a Chrome bug - https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=137692 - been pending for over a year now

Yea, I see the same on GitHub's icons. Not sure this is something we can do anything about at this point.
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