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Dotcloud becoming Docker

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Re: Dotcloud becoming Docker

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Post by keeblus »

Docker just keeps growing and growing. The amount of new businesses springing up to take advtange, along with some pretty heavy hitters looking to adopt, Docker has a fighting chance to become a standard from which everyone benefits.

Re: Dotcloud becoming Docker

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Post by programminggeek »

This is a smart move. Some people might call it a pivot, but I think it's really doubling down on what people really want. dotCloud is not going to change the world (or make a truckload of money) by being Heroku's also-ran.

Instead, they are taking something they built that is really interesting to a lot of people and building a business around it. As someone who is quite interested in docker, I'm glad that they are turning it into a real business. This benefits pretty much everyone who wants to see docker succeed.

Also, it's really smart that they are keeping dotCloud alive. It would be incredibly irresponsible for them to kill that business just to push faster on docker.

Re: Dotcloud becoming Docker

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Post by jqueryin »

Congratulations is well in order. It's so exciting to see the progress the team and platform have made in such a short amount of time.

Only months ago at PyCon Solomon Hykes was showing off Docker to the public for the first time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=wW9CA...

Re: Dotcloud becoming Docker

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Post by jbellis »

programminggeek wrote: post #3

This is a smart move. Some people might call it a pivot, but I think it's really doubling down on what people really want. dotCloud is not going to change the world (or make a truckload of money) by being Heroku's also-ran. Instead, they are taking something they built that is really interesting to a lot of people and building a business around it. As someone who is quite interested in docker, I'm glad that they are…

I was with you until the last sentence. Why would it be irresponsible to kill the Heroku also-ran to push faster on what people really want?

Re: Dotcloud becoming Docker

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Post by iand675 »

jbellis wrote: post #7
programminggeek wrote: post #3

This is a smart move. Some people might call it a pivot, but I think it's really doubling down on what people really want. dotCloud is not going to change the world (or make a truckload of money) by being Heroku's also-ran. Instead, they are taking something they built that is really interesting to a lot of people and building a business around it. As someone who is quite interested in docker, I'm glad that they are…

I was with you until the last sentence. Why would it be irresponsible to kill the Heroku also-ran to push faster on what people really want?

Sometimes you have to build products that make enough intermediate revenue to get you to where you're trying to go.

Re: Dotcloud becoming Docker

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Post by jxf »

As a user of Docker, I'm excited. But as someone who uses the dotCloud PaaS right now to run a company, I'm a little annoyed, mostly at myself for not seeing this coming.

Clearly there's a diversion of resources away from the dotCloud PaaS to Docker, and that's going to have a toll somewhere. Despite the company's reassurances that everything is business as usual, I know that Docker [the project] is just too much of a beast and eventually the Docker [the company] will need to move on from the PaaS. (I should know, since I gave a talk about how "Docker is the future" just a few weeks after Docker was announced.) [0]

I'm not really sure what my choices are now, either; DigitalOcean, I guess? I don't want to manage servers myself, and I want to be able to pay on the memory-usage axis for my app instances (which Heroku doesn't allow). I wasn't super excited by DO last year, but maybe things have changed.

My current "light at the end of the tunnel" is hoping that the Docker-based PaaS ecosystem matures, but for now none of them seem like they're mature enough, and it's tough to keep up with all of them since it seems like another one pops up each week.

Here's my wishlist:

-- (1) command-line client for deployment via git repository and doing anything related to deployment (add new instances, remove instances, create new environments, assign domains to the PaaS router, etc.)

-- (2) clear pricing

-- (3) I can pay for more memory as I need it

-- (4) ability to specify environment variables in a configuration file that take effect on the container process

-- (5) web interface for administering the account

Anyone have any recommendations?

[0] http://spreecommerce.com/blog/spreeconf-DC-speaker-highlight...

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