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Re: Stackoverflow Eating Away at Experts-Exchange

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About time... I can't be the only one who thinks Experts-Exchange is lame...

it's truly lame, but I always have to laugh when I hit CTRL + END on their question-pages

Could you please explain this a bit more? I'm not sure if this a browser specific thing but on opera I just get to the bottom of the page.

edit: Oh, I was looking on a page that had no answers. Didn't realise that at the time.

Re: Stackoverflow Eating Away at Experts-Exchange

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About time... I can't be the only one who thinks Experts-Exchange is lame...

Experts-exchange may be lame to many of the folks on this list because it is perhaps more useful to a 'light weight' crowd with a more IT bent (rather than hard core developer). I would venture to say that StackOverflow will NEVER match experts-exchange in traffic. There are just not that many smart programmers compared to the masses of IT folks and the general public that EE caters to.

StackOverflow probably will beat Experts-Exchange, as will the other services they'll starting. If you have a good free service and a good pay service, the free service will win out. Experts-Exchange will survive for a while, sure, but StackOverflow is an excellent service, and on the whole I think it's the better one.

Re: Stackoverflow Eating Away at Experts-Exchange

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I had to work w/ ASP.NET from 04-07, and ended up on EE once in a while. I can't complain; never had to pay for an answer, and usually found one more often than other sites. This crowd should know how to ignore ads or view the google cache anyway.

I can't complain either. Scrolling down is slightly annoying, but the answers on EE are as a rule, much better than other google results. Stackoverflow is popping up with great results now too. Can't we be happy to have both and not bash one or the other?

I used to be a heavy EE user about 5 years ago (IIRC) enough so that I got a free premium membership for a month. Thing is now i can't even read the answers I gave to some questions as I'm not a premium member ... unless I UA-switch to Googlebot of course (that worked last time I was there).

EE always frustrated me, like Launchpad Answers does now, in that people with no clue how to solve the problem would answer and then no-one else would bother because someone already answered (Launchpad is far worse for this as any reply (except "more info needed) marks the question as "answered").

/rant

Re: Stackoverflow Eating Away at Experts-Exchange

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If you log in, you have access to "search wiki" features. But as far as I know, it just affects the pages that you see.

Google said when they launched search wiki that "right now" it wouldn't do anything for anyone else, but you know that Google can't resist using data they have for too long.

Because you think Google are stupid enough to use an easily abused metric like down-votes (alone) to decrease SERP rankings?

Bounce-rate would be a better metric (and again abusable) and they already have access to that for many sites.

Re: Stackoverflow Eating Away at Experts-Exchange

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Experts-exchange has an annoying and deceptive business model. Does Stack Overflow make any money? Is it supposed to?

It breaks even on a very small amount of ads. There are plans to make more money with a job board and a contractor/client bidding board. They also have plans for internal enterprise versions for companies. It was recently valued at $1M during a recent podcast.

I'm guessing you actually mean it covers running costs on a small amount of ads. A small amount of ads doesn't pay many wage bills* - I'm guessing there are a equivalent of a couple of full-time people working on SO? Doing backups fighting off crackers, ensuring trust metrics aren't abused, making optimisation changes, upgrading hardware, etc..

500000 uniques but how many ad clicks? I'd imagine their clicks-per-impression is really low on this sort of site unless the ad is the solution to the problem. People are focussed not aimlessly searching, they're also probably the sector most immunue to ads - computer experts at work.

Re: Stackoverflow Eating Away at Experts-Exchange

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Expert sex change is irrelevant. I can't remember ever finding something useful there.

I can remember finding useful stuff there, I even wrote some answers. I don't use it now (perhaps been thrice in the last year or so) and find better info elsewhere often. But it still has utility.

Next worthless anecdotal comment please ...

Re: Stackoverflow Eating Away at Experts-Exchange

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Does google have a blacklist feature? Can I exclude all links from a certain domain within my google prefs? This needs to be a feature. I came across 3 or 4 experts-exchange pages today when looking to fix a small apache issue.

add "-site:expertsexchange.com" in your google query to exclude results from that site ..

pro search tip :D Hopefully search will remember we dislike particular sites and exclude them in personalized future releases.

Re: Stackoverflow Eating Away at Experts-Exchange

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Does google have a blacklist feature? Can I exclude all links from a certain domain within my google prefs? This needs to be a feature. I came across 3 or 4 experts-exchange pages today when looking to fix a small apache issue.

add "-site:expertsexchange.com" in your google query to exclude results from that site ..

Also, it's not hard to make a keyword search that adds that automatically. On firefox, left-click the google search box/"Add a keyword for this search", save it with the keyword "g" somewhere. Then look for it in your bookmarks menu, right-click/properties and edit the query string until it fits your tastes. (The %s will get replaced with your search terms.) Mine is like 200 chars long.

After that, you can use g in the address bar to search for something with a sane query.

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