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The Zuckerberg Files - All public utterances of Mark Zuckerberg

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Re: The Zuckerberg Files - All public utterances of Mark Zuckerberg

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Open-ish. Aka closed :)

It's like a box on a shelf you can't reach. It's not locked. It's not even closed. If you squint, you can guess what's inside. But it's in a box. And it's up there. And you have to wait for someone to bring a ladder.

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Re: The Zuckerberg Files - All public utterances of Mark Zuckerberg

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post #21

Where is Obama files? In fact this seems like a good idea for a huge website for all high level political figures.

Well, nearly every public speech from members of Congress and the executive office and the judicial branch is recorded, with some notable exceptions like national security, but even then, eventually that information enters the public record by law.

The problem is that much of it is difficult to collate. http://thomas.loc.gov/home/thomas.php is a good start for the Congressional record online, but presidential records and judicial records often end up all over the place.

Ideally the LOC would provide a better online toolkit for this stuff, but you know, good enough for government work.

Re: The Zuckerberg Files - All public utterances of Mark Zuckerberg

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"The Zuckerberg Files is an open-access public archive" ... "Scholars wishing to gain access to the full archive should email access@zuckerbergfiles.org with their name, affiliation, and a brief description of the research project or purpose for which the materials will be put." Open-ish.

I had the same reaction: to me they were contradicting themselves in no more than two sentences. Then I read on and followed links: http://zuckerbergfiles.org/?page_id=41 So this is indeed a copyright issue. Like all copyright issues, bittorrent is the answer.

Flagrant disregard for copyrights is most definitely not the answer to copyright issues, and I say that as an inveterate torrenter.

The real answer is changing the laws; torrents are a work-around for the currently broken system, at best.

Re: The Zuckerberg Files - All public utterances of Mark Zuckerberg

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To everyone complaining about the password-protected login, there is something you need to understand: this is about copyright, not the library being fake-open. This repository apparently consists of copyrighted works, and by the Fair Use provisions of US Copyright, University of Wisconsin Milwaukee have collected these works together even though they presumably do not have rights to all the works.

You, too, could pull all these works together without arranging the rights, and you could probably make a fair use argument for it. However, I guess they're saying that they aren't going to re-transmit the archive in bulk. It is insinuated that it might run astray of fair use to do so.

Re: The Zuckerberg Files - All public utterances of Mark Zuckerberg

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"The Zuckerberg Files is an open-access public archive" ... "Scholars wishing to gain access to the full archive should email access@zuckerbergfiles.org with their name, affiliation, and a brief description of the research project or purpose for which the materials will be put." Open-ish.

I'm not really sure I understand their argument for restricting access. I'm not into the academic environment (and this might be one of the reasons) but this at first looked something targeted at a wider audience than "scholars". Also, their quote mentions copyrighted work. A) is this material copyrighted? B) would be legal to open access - with passwords - to a "organized database of copyrighted material"?

Everything is copyrighted. Welcome to the blight.
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