Namecheap now offer .io domains • Hacker News Board

Re: Namecheap now offer .io domains

#71

Post by larrys » Mon, Oct 28, 2013, 4:38 PM UTC

alphakappa wrote: post #57

larrys wrote: post #33

Competitor to namecheap here. [1] [2] We don't offer .io domains. Nor do we offer any of the TLD's that seem to be popular with some startups. Even though we could make money selling them. Like our competitors do. Although popular (with startups) they aren't mainstream with the public. If you become successful you will just end up buying (at a much higher price) the .com equivalent. Or end up having misdirected mail…

>> [2] We aren't cheap. Could you explain why you aren't cheap? (as in, what would justify a higher cost compared to someone like Namecheap?)

Not the market we choose to be in. Selling cheaply requires more customer service as you generate volume. Just because you can sell something cheaply doesn't mean you want to sell it cheaply. It's just a different business model. Nothing wrong with the other business model but not what we do. (Same as Rackspace doesn't compete really with Digital Ocean).

Re: Namecheap now offer .io domains

#72

Post by kintamanimatt » Mon, Oct 28, 2013, 4:38 PM UTC

mingabunga wrote: post #60

Does anyone recall a few months back a 3 and 4 letter .io search engine someone made and posted here? I can't find it in the HN search.

Here ya go: http://shortdomainsearch.net/

Re: Namecheap now offer .io domains

#73

Post by larrys » Mon, Oct 28, 2013, 4:40 PM UTC

slimbods wrote: post #69

larrys wrote: post #33

Competitor to namecheap here. [1] [2] We don't offer .io domains. Nor do we offer any of the TLD's that seem to be popular with some startups. Even though we could make money selling them. Like our competitors do. Although popular (with startups) they aren't mainstream with the public. If you become successful you will just end up buying (at a much higher price) the .com equivalent. Or end up having misdirected mail…

Might be true in the US but for the rest of the world, local tld's are fine. Amazon.co.uk, bbc.co.uk, etc.

Agree that in certain cases that is fine. But most people reading HN (I'm guessing) are doing a product or service where having a country specific TLD would limit their market.

Re: Namecheap now offer .io domains

#74

Post by larrys » Mon, Oct 28, 2013, 4:42 PM UTC

TheSwordsman wrote: post #58

hugofirth wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Am I the only one that thought that [2] from above was a clever reference to being "name.com" until I realised that name sell .io domains? So much for me being all clever haha.

Probably NetworkSolutions...

Nope.

Re: Namecheap now offer .io domains

#75

Post by dangoldin » Mon, Oct 28, 2013, 4:44 PM UTC

clone1018 wrote: post #11

Doesn't seem to be avaliable for transfers: "ignite.io cannot be transferred The domain name seems to be invalid or the TLD is not supported. Please make sure you entered the domain name properly and don't add www. in front of the domain name."

Same here. I just chatted with customer support and it's currently not supported. The guy I spoke with didn't know whether that was something they were working on.

Re: Namecheap now offer .io domains

#76

Post by drzaiusapelord » Mon, Oct 28, 2013, 4:49 PM UTC

peckrob wrote: post #20

drzaiusapelord wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

namecheap is my preferred vendor and is generally cheap, as the name suggests. Their interface is great and their customer service tends to be pretty good. They're miles ahead of other popular registrars like godaddy and netsol. I have no idea what io is or why the people at ICANN or wherever are allowing all these new subdomains. Its clearly a cash grab by all involved and the registrars are feeling out the market v…

.io is the CCTLD for the British Indian Ocean Territory. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.io

Abusing foreign domains for vanity purposes is still the ugly greed I'm complaining about. Especially the geniuses who would buy domains attached to anti-enlightenment, anti-liberal cultures that can pull your product/site for any caveman reason.

Re: Namecheap now offer .io domains

#77

Post by buckbova » Mon, Oct 28, 2013, 4:54 PM UTC

larrys wrote: post #33

Competitor to namecheap here. [1] [2] We don't offer .io domains. Nor do we offer any of the TLD's that seem to be popular with some startups. Even though we could make money selling them. Like our competitors do. Although popular (with startups) they aren't mainstream with the public. If you become successful you will just end up buying (at a much higher price) the .com equivalent. Or end up having misdirected mail…

> Whatever .com you can buy now will be much more expensive once the .com owner sees you have funding and a business model and a website.

This is why I buy the .com and .net along with something like an .io all at the same time.

Re: Namecheap now offer .io domains

#78

Post by gmjosack » Mon, Oct 28, 2013, 5:02 PM UTC

jjblue wrote: post #62

dangrossman wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Domain registration is a commodity service, where all but one company selling this commodity does so without any strange contract terms. Even if the chance that Gandi acts on their contractual rights is slim, there's no reason to give them that right in the first place. A company's brand, good will and years of backlinks are tied to their domain -- it's not something to put at risk lightly. I deleted the copy of my c…

So no examples, then? Sounds like FUD to me.

I appreciate the strange terms being brought to my attention. I don't have time to worry about a company morally and subjectively policing the product I bought from them. The TOS is not a place to be clever and funny and this information has helped inform a decision for me. Just because you happen to not care doesn't mean other don't.

Re: Namecheap now offer .io domains

#79

Post by null_ptr » Mon, Oct 28, 2013, 5:02 PM UTC

swalsh wrote: post #46

jscheel wrote: post #21

I love the IO ccTLD, but it's just too expensive to justify on a free side project that doesn't make any money. First-world problem, eh?

If the more expensive price tag means a less flikr's and alot more flickers than its worth the money to me.

I think this is an understated problem. Vowel-stripping from names has become a part of today's bleeding edge tech culture, but it's really just a work around the crowded domains market.

Vowel-stripped names sound and look OK to me today, but I wonder how well they'll stand the test of time 10 years down the road, whether they'll feel reputable or whether we'll see a lot of successful businesses add back a few of their missing a-e-i-o-u's.

Re: Namecheap now offer .io domains

#80

Post by cdjk » Mon, Oct 28, 2013, 5:11 PM UTC

jackalope wrote: post #49

hardwaresofton wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do they offer proper DNS services?

I moved all of my domains from GoDaddy to Namecheap. I host my own DNS. Recently, I decided to take a stab at implementing DNSSEC, but one condition is that your registrar must support it[1], and Namecheap doesn't[2]. I'm in no rush, but it's a little disappointing. I have no idea if DNSSEC is an option when Namecheap hosts your DNS. They've also only recently added support for IPv6 glue records. Nonetheless, I'm hap…

Don't give up on DNSSEC just yet. You can use DLV (DNSSEC Look-aside Validation) if your registrar doesn't support it yet:

https://dlv.isc.org/