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Is Ad Avoidance a Problem?

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Re: Is Ad Avoidance a Problem?

#11
And there's the Google stock (a company which, last time I checked, made most part of its revenue through ads) sky rocketing to prove once and for all that ads are a thing of the past...

I see this more as a crisis of the "old" media than a global ad avoidance phenomenon. Brand avoidance, consumer activism and anti-advertisement movements are real, but their size and impact on our culture (at least in Brazil) is not that big for the time being.

Re: Is Ad Avoidance a Problem?

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post #9

The argument is pretty simple: if you destroy the advertising revenue that content depends on, we’ll end up in a cultural wasteland, or, worse, a culture plagued by advertising that masquerades as content. Isn't this true for things that are already paid for anyways? The car from Transformers seems to ring a bell. The argument that advertising kills content doesn't really hold its salt for me, if people are not willi…

Its not whether people are willing to pay for content, its can people really afford premium content? Ad-less content isn't very attractive when you have pay $99 per episode.

Essentially advertisers have been subsidizing content for years and the question is can people really afford premium TV content and in what capacity? I'm not sure what the exact numbers are but its something to consider when thinking about the " if people are not willing to pay for content is it that great anyways". People may like the content but might be priced out.

The next thing is consider is in the TV industry, you don't pay per content. Consider the film industry which is relatively ad-less, but they make most of their money from theaters. Imagine the backlash that would occur if comcast said it would remove ads, but you had to pay $13 for each show you watched.

Re: Is Ad Avoidance a Problem?

#13
Underlying the issue of attention and ethics is the fact that most ads are not benign static elements. They are accompanied by increasingly complex, increasingly opaque, increasingly ubiquitous, and increasingly intrusive forms of commercial (and therefore also government) surveillance.

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TV ads are still a growing business according to TFA. Mm... In other news, people still go to the bathroom, fetch a snack, walk their dog, etc. during TV ads. And more recently, browse their tablet or smartphone. Try this poll around you: You watch TV with: [ ] No other screen on hand [ ] One other screen (e.g. tablet, smartphone or laptop) [ ] Two screens [ ] Three or more screens Then consider the price advertisers…

Its hard to laugh unless you know the financials. If advertisers are paying 10 million dollars for super bowl ads and getting a 15 million dollar return then they are the ones laughing at your naivete.

Re: Is Ad Avoidance a Problem?

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The concept that no ads leads to cultural wasteland is so ludicrously wrong it makes me angry. First ads are the wasteland. Second advertising is relatively new. Somehow culture was able to flourish without ads for thousands of years.

Re: Is Ad Avoidance a Problem?

#16
I think the problem is that some ads are so heavy-weight. I kind of wish there were an ad-block tool that would only block ads that are too large (data-wise) or that take too long to load.

Re: Is Ad Avoidance a Problem?

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post #9

The argument is pretty simple: if you destroy the advertising revenue that content depends on, we’ll end up in a cultural wasteland, or, worse, a culture plagued by advertising that masquerades as content. Isn't this true for things that are already paid for anyways? The car from Transformers seems to ring a bell. The argument that advertising kills content doesn't really hold its salt for me, if people are not willi…

Its not whether people are willing to pay for content, its can people really afford premium content? Ad-less content isn't very attractive when you have pay $99 per episode. Essentially advertisers have been subsidizing content for years and the question is can people really afford premium TV content and in what capacity? I'm not sure what the exact numbers are but its something to consider when thinking about the "…

Excuse my ignorance but where do the advertisers get the money to pay for the content? They get it from me if I buy their product. So instead giving my money to the advertiser who then gives it to the artist, why wouldn't I just give it to the artist myself (like with Netflix, etc.)?

I don't have the numbers but I am quite sure that movies at the theater woudldn't be that much more expensive either. The advertisers don't invest their own money, they invest the money they get from us the customers obviously. And they only can invest as much as we buy, not more.

Wouldn't cutting out the middleman save some bugs too?

Re: Is Ad Avoidance a Problem?

#18

Talk about moving the measurement to create concession. Ads are a problem. Never have there been more advertisements. Not only do people have Billboards, TV ads, Radio Ads, and Newspaper ads like we've had in the 20th century (all of which are still pervasive and virtually unavoidable), But we're not talking about a problem in avoiding all of the new types of advertising only really initiated in this century. Perhaps…

I've always found it interesting that prior to us paying for services with our private data, we paid for it with our attention. All of these implicit value transmissions are harmful to audiences, but the effects tend to be distant in time or space.

Re: Is Ad Avoidance a Problem?

#19
I use ad-block.

Ads are polluting my brain. I'm thinking of something while traveling on the bus and suddenly I catch myself reading some silly slogan on a board. Now it's stored somewhere and I might think about it later again. I never wanted to read that thing and feel like it has been forced upon me. How many hours of collective thinking power have been lost to ads processing ?

Ads publishers treat us like a free resources that they can tap into. They hire psychologist and sociologists to know the best way to trigger emotional responses into us. They track our every move on the Internet. TV shows are especially created to dumb us down and make us more receptive to the ad-break. And ads are so omnipresent that they are virtually unavoidable. I don't remember the last time I got convinced to buy by an ad but it must work since they keep doing it.

So yes, I don't feel bad and ad-block the hell of everything and wish I could do it in the real life too.

EDIT: Actually my biggest grief is that the price of ads is not clearly exposed. I need to know upfront how much of purchasing influence I'm expected to spend on average otherwise how can I choose what is cheaper ?

Re: Is Ad Avoidance a Problem?

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> But the funny thing is that advertising spending is actually increasing, both in the United States and globally. Moreover, it has grown three years in a row, reaching more than half a trillion dollars in 2012. This is true even of live-television ads, which are the most intrusive and the easiest to avoid, yet are nonetheless growing at a healthy pace—by eight per cent last year in the United States.

For every $1 one company spends on advertising, another has to spend $2 to steal your attention. Inevitably this means the industry will continue to grow infinitely as companies continue to try to buy your attention. Look at PPC, it's a perfect example of an openly efficient market to buy your attention.

My favorite quote that illustrates this is from Seth Godin:

Attention is a bit like real estate, in that they're not making any more of it. Unlike real estate, though, it keeps going up in value.

http://sethgodin.typepad.com/seths_blog/2011/07/paying-atten...

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