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Lou Reed, Velvet Underground Leader and Rock Pioneer, Dead at 71

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Re: Lou Reed, Velvet Underground Leader and Rock Pioneer, Dead at 71

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is strange reading that about Yeezus, Kanye made Yeezus with a number of other musicians (the full list, according to Wiki: 88-Keys, Ackee Juice Rockers, Arca, Benji B, Carlos Broady, Brodinski, Ben Bronfman, Evian Christ, Eric Danchild, Daft Punk, Mike Dean, Dom Solo, Jack Donoghue, Gesaffelstein, Noah Goldstein, Lunice, Lupe Fiasco, Hudson Mohawke, No ID, Che Pope, Rick Rubin, S1, Travis Scott, and Sham Joseph).…

Kanye has been pretty honest about his abilities as a producer. He was always a chopped-up samples producer and started bringing in musicians and other producers to layer original instrumentation over his samples on his first album. That style evolved with each subsequent album, with his albums prior to Yeezus being extremely orchestrated and huge. There is absolutely no-doubt that Kanye is the ringleader in this. He…

"but he's putting it all together and making it cohesive" No, that was Rick Rubin who did that.

So we know Kanye isn't a great rapper (he's had many songs Ghost written and I think its a pretty common belief among hip-hop heads) and you say he can't produce well? What can he do well?

I don't have the time to go through it all unless you really want me to, but your last post was riddled with fallacies and pretty biased opinion.

Lou Reed was something else, Kanye is what he made himself (a pop star). I doubt anyone's going to pick up a copy of Yeezus in 40 years and be amazed in the way people continue to pick up copies of The Velvet Underground & Nico.

Re: Lou Reed, Velvet Underground Leader and Rock Pioneer, Dead at 71

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"Only about 3000 people bought Velvet Underground albums, but all of them started a band."

ENO: VOYAGES IN TIME & PERCEPTION from Musician Magazine, Oct 1982, by Kristine McKenna

http://music.hyperreal.org/artists/brian_eno/interviews/musn...

I was talking to Lou Reed the other day and he said that the first Velvet Underground record sold 30,000 copies in the first five years. The sales have picked up in the past few years, but I mean, that record was such an important record for so many people. I think everyone who bought one of those 30,000 copies started a band!

Re: Lou Reed, Velvet Underground Leader and Rock Pioneer, Dead at 71

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The Velvet Underground's career can be summed up as: "Commercially unsuccessful, but enormously influential". On a side note, if you have a few minutes to spare, read Lou Reed's review of Kanye's Yeezus : http://thetalkhouse.com/reviews/view/lou-reed It's interesting to read a legend's opinion on a modern pop-star.

It is strange reading that about Yeezus, Kanye made Yeezus with a number of other musicians (the full list, according to Wiki: 88-Keys, Ackee Juice Rockers, Arca, Benji B, Carlos Broady, Brodinski, Ben Bronfman, Evian Christ, Eric Danchild, Daft Punk, Mike Dean, Dom Solo, Jack Donoghue, Gesaffelstein, Noah Goldstein, Lunice, Lupe Fiasco, Hudson Mohawke, No ID, Che Pope, Rick Rubin, S1, Travis Scott, and Sham Joseph).…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Record_producer

Re: Lou Reed, Velvet Underground Leader and Rock Pioneer, Dead at 71

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I don't see how general celebrity deaths are hacker news. I would like to read about tech and computer news and ideas; if I wanted this, I would read general news sites.

I agree. This submission has taken up about an entire half an inch of screen real estate, and seeing as how Apple hasn't yet offered a Macbook Air with a larger display, I can't really give up that much space. What's worse is the js script HN seems to be running that forces your mouse cursor to gravitate towards links of celebrity news.

It's not that my time and reading effort is so valuable (it isn't). It's that news forums are as valuable as they are curated to be on topic. With your argument, everyone could just post anything, such as what Justin B had for lunch, and I could just scroll down, right?

Re: Lou Reed, Velvet Underground Leader and Rock Pioneer, Dead at 71

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I don't see how general celebrity deaths are hacker news. I would like to read about tech and computer news and ideas; if I wanted this, I would read general news sites.

I came to this comment thread just to find this comment and downvote it, because I KNEW it would be here.

Happy to oblige. I look forward to the Perez Hiltification of the forum...

Re: Lou Reed, Velvet Underground Leader and Rock Pioneer, Dead at 71

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I don't see how general celebrity deaths are hacker news. I would like to read about tech and computer news and ideas; if I wanted this, I would read general news sites.

It's hacker news because hackers upvoted it.

Wrong. The guidelines aren't that clear on what hacker news is, but they're quite clear on what hacker news isn't. Just because people upvote something, that doesn't automatically make it hacker news. Having said that, rest in peace Lou Reed. Your music was a big part of my life.
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