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A School With No Teachers, Where Students Teach Themselves

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Re: A School With No Teachers, Where Students Teach Themselves

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Post by yeukhon »

I like the idea, but I hope the article would address my question whether or not there are mentors available for office hours.

You can certainly learn by trials and errors, but to be honest you'd learn a lot more if there are professionals to help you.

Second issue is programming 15 hours a day seems a lot. I can't even stare at my screen for more than 7-8 hours a day. That's a lot of work...

I do like the idea, and I think traditional curriculum should adopt part of this. I advocate my department to do "student seminar" as elective, but the department always refuses by saying "your employers don't see the value and have no way to justify your ability by taking this elective."

I like professors to give students more freedom to build things and show to class their progress.

Re: A School With No Teachers, Where Students Teach Themselves

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Post by Artemis2 »

It is a shitty school, launched by one of the biggest IT groups in France (Illiad, which owns mainly Online - hosting provider and Free - ISP/mobile carrier). Students are under stress during their whole scholarship. I think one attending this could work for Illiad at most (and maybe elsewhere, by using their experience).

Although it is free, which is interesting for people with low resources.

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Post by bcoates »

j2d3 wrote: post #5

This is probably bound to catch on fast in the us where teachers and their unions are thought (by an unnerving possible majority) to be one of the primary factors in our ongoing economic problems.

I like the idea that it's targeted at people for whom the existing system is failing, rather than a panacea for education.

Alternative education programs like this don't have to be capable of replacing traditional education to be a success.

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Post by DanBC »

LAMike wrote: post #4

15 hours a day? On fake problems? Why not teach them basic skills on the frontend and backend and let them work on projects for 15 hours a day?

I'm guessing French unions don't want unpaid students doing real work because they want the real work to be done by employed people.

Re: A School With No Teachers, Where Students Teach Themselves

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Post by DanBC »

I thought (from the headlines) that this was going to be like Summerhill School. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Summerhill_School)

> It is run as a democratic community; the running of the school is conducted in the school meetings, which anyone, staff or pupil, may attend, and at which everyone has an equal vote. These meetings serve as both a legislative and judicial body. Members of the community are free to do as they please, so long as their actions do not cause any harm to others, according to Neill's principle "Freedom, not Licence." This extends to the freedom for pupils to choose which lessons, if any, they attend.

Re: A School With No Teachers, Where Students Teach Themselves

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Post by conradk »

Artemis2 wrote: post #3

It is a shitty school, launched by one of the biggest IT groups in France (Illiad, which owns mainly Online - hosting provider and Free - ISP/mobile carrier). Students are under stress during their whole scholarship. I think one attending this could work for Illiad at most (and maybe elsewhere, by using their experience). Although it is free, which is interesting for people with low resources.

Since this is the first year, I don't see how you could know if we are gonna be under stress. But I'd like to understand, if you have more information on that. I've spent a month in the school 42 in July. The stress we had was a good stress IMO. The one that pushes you to work instead of spending 3 hours a day on YouTube. We just had to be able to say "I won't have the time to finish, so I'll try making the least worse". Once we understood that, it was intensive, but fun.
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