Great times insulting office software outside of the office. The end result of this article boils down to: who cares?
Mac OS 10.9 – Infinity times your spam
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#22This is good news: it seems as if Apple's quality control is improving. After all, there is no report here of Mail.app actually deleting messages[0] [EDIT: oh, well] or sending out hundreds of copies of a message.[1] Despite this improvement, however, I think I shall continue to avoid this company's software in favor of more mature, open source solutions.[2] [0]http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=12758…
To me it seems like QA is declining. I just experienced data loss with the new Mail.app 7.0: Moving mails out of inbox to another folder left a copy in the inbox. Deleting the copy in the inbox also irrevocably deleted the other copy in the other folder. Smart mailboxes just don't work properly, doesn't auto-refresh, incorrect non-refreshing or just plain random "unread email count" badges, table column "Mailbox" sho…
The Steve Job's Wrath Engine has been removed. QA folks at Apple can now live normal lives.
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#23I find Mail.app to be OK now. The only think I am missing (and my main gripe) is strict threading. I just hate receiving my daily Google remainder (or lack thereof) and seeing the long list of previous emails with same subject associated on the same thread. Hate it!
Does anyone knows if there is a way to get strict threading —without changing the client?
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#24I already have too a bug opened to apple due to an incorrect handle of uidl with 0 at left... I opened it like one year ago... Still no answer... This bug is in all ios apple mail clients....
Well no answer.... They told me they knew the bug.... But it's still opened
Well.... Maybe it is because all of your sentences.... sound like awkward murmuring.... with all those extra periods.......
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#25From the comments I draw the conclusion that a solid, open source, GUI e-mail client would have great popularity. Are there such clients out there? I used Thunderbird under Linux but it feels cumbersome.
Opera Mail would be that one, but it's interface is not the best.
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#26> I discovered my second attempt to contact the user about this problem in their Junk folder tonight.
Peeking into a user's mail box? I know it's all plain text anyway, but this article makes me feel a bit uneasy.
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#27From the comments I draw the conclusion that a solid, open source, GUI e-mail client would have great popularity. Are there such clients out there? I used Thunderbird under Linux but it feels cumbersome.
There is Geary, but I have tried it and it is both lacking in features and pretty buggy. It is quite nice looking however.
Myself I have all but given up on GUI email clients, I still use Thunderbird from time to time but only when I need PGP encrypted email, otherwise I stick to webmail. I am looking forward to Mailpile if it delivers on its goals, looks very promising.
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/mailpile-taking-e-mail-bac...
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are degrees: I doubt that Google's actually surprise-deletes users' email, for example. On the other hand, their SMTP servers have interesting issues[0]. "I have yet to find any email app on any platform that I can't swear at daily." I've been using mutt for many years and have not found a single bug or issue. It's fast, powerful, ridiculously configurable, and never surprises me. [0]http://lee-phillips.org/gma…
Mutt sucks less. I've seen some bugs over the years, but very very few. I wouldn't use anything else. I run mutt on a distant server, so I wrote a simple attachment handler that can save or view attachments locally. Despite my wishes, the real world does occasionally send me photos. :)
I wrote one of these too, but eventually I decided it was simpler just to run mutt on the local machine.
"the real world does occasionally send me photos."
Dealing with the real world, while using mutt, is made easier with muttils: http://lee-phillips.org/muttheaven/
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#29From the comments I draw the conclusion that a solid, open source, GUI e-mail client would have great popularity. Are there such clients out there? I used Thunderbird under Linux but it feels cumbersome.
I've searched in vain for an alternative, open or closed, to Mail.app on any platform ever since Mozilla lost its mind and released Thunderbird 3. I can't find anything fast, simple, stable, and maintained. The next best option I've found is, of all things, Outlook (Mac or Windows), not that it's particularly desirable, either.
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#30I would very much appreciate an iOS 7 stripping of Mail.app. I've developed this aversion to opening up the app, and if I do by accident, it's a panicked scramble to quit. It's bloated and clunky. I would consistently get connection errors, it would randomly decide to re-sync all of my mail attachments, and more. I've been on Sparrow for a year or so now and have had zero problems. It's funny, across all of my Apple devices, I don't use any of the native mail apps for one reason or another. On iOS, I use Mailbox.