Facebook Is No Longer the Most Popular Social Network for Teens • Hacker News Board

Re: Facebook Is No Longer the Most Popular Social Network for Teens

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Post by alex_doom » Fri, Oct 25, 2013, 10:30 PM UTC

kbenson wrote: post #19

The other night at dinner my eleven year old daughter asked me "What's instagam?" and then proceeded to ask if she could have an account because all her friends were on it. I told her no because I don't like the idea of her on a social network yet (and it's probably against their TOS anyway). Truthfully, I don't know why there isn't a K-12 social network that has schools and teachers, and kids were grouped by class,…

Because kids would never use it. They like their hidden caves. It's similar to passing secret notes to each other in class. Except now they can do it from afar.

Re: Facebook Is No Longer the Most Popular Social Network for Teens

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Post by philwebster » Fri, Oct 25, 2013, 10:31 PM UTC

kbenson wrote: post #19

The other night at dinner my eleven year old daughter asked me "What's instagam?" and then proceeded to ask if she could have an account because all her friends were on it. I told her no because I don't like the idea of her on a social network yet (and it's probably against their TOS anyway). Truthfully, I don't know why there isn't a K-12 social network that has schools and teachers, and kids were grouped by class,…

Facebook EDU: a school-managed Facebook account with parental controls. I wonder how long it will be before this happens. I like your idea, but I'm not sure how I would feel if Facebook operated it.

Re: Facebook Is No Longer the Most Popular Social Network for Teens

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Post by baddox » Fri, Oct 25, 2013, 10:33 PM UTC

> Twitter has overtaken Facebook as the social media network that is most important to teens, according to Piper Jaffray's semi-annual teen market research report. Twitter is the new king of teens, with 26 percent naming it as their "most important" social site.

(emphasis mine)

Re: Facebook Is No Longer the Most Popular Social Network for Teens

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Post by meowface » Fri, Oct 25, 2013, 10:34 PM UTC

devindotcom wrote: post #18

It's great that young people are diversifying in this way, but isn't it a little apples to oranges? You don't use Facebook to send disappearing images to each other, you don't use Instagram to plan events or remind you of birthdays, and you don't use Snapchat to share pictures of your cat with followers around the world. They're very different things, yet they are all lumped into the category "social network" because…

Absolutely. It is a complete misunderstanding if they're considering services like Facebook, Instagram, and Snapchat as somehow mutually exclusive.

You can only really compare Facebook with services like Google+, Myspace, and Orkut; and even then, many people have active accounts on multiple of those services.

Re: Facebook Is No Longer the Most Popular Social Network for Teens

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Post by kbenson » Fri, Oct 25, 2013, 10:35 PM UTC

philwebster wrote: post #22

kbenson wrote: post #19

The other night at dinner my eleven year old daughter asked me "What's instagam?" and then proceeded to ask if she could have an account because all her friends were on it. I told her no because I don't like the idea of her on a social network yet (and it's probably against their TOS anyway). Truthfully, I don't know why there isn't a K-12 social network that has schools and teachers, and kids were grouped by class,…

Facebook EDU: a school-managed Facebook account with parental controls. I wonder how long it will be before this happens. I like your idea, but I'm not sure how I would feel if Facebook operated it.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't; Do you want useful features rolled out on a regular basis, or you want peace of mind that the company involved is dedicated to working directly with K-12 institutions as their primary concern, without alternate revenue streams and business needs getting in the way.

Re: Facebook Is No Longer the Most Popular Social Network for Teens

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Post by eipipuz » Fri, Oct 25, 2013, 10:37 PM UTC

kbenson wrote: post #19

The other night at dinner my eleven year old daughter asked me "What's instagam?" and then proceeded to ask if she could have an account because all her friends were on it. I told her no because I don't like the idea of her on a social network yet (and it's probably against their TOS anyway). Truthfully, I don't know why there isn't a K-12 social network that has schools and teachers, and kids were grouped by class,…

I'm sure there are thousand of those 'social networks'… except that who will want to be part of that?

At least when I was her age, I didn't want to pass time where teachers were.

Re: Facebook Is No Longer the Most Popular Social Network for Teens

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Post by fieldforceapp » Fri, Oct 25, 2013, 10:37 PM UTC

kbenson wrote: post #19

The other night at dinner my eleven year old daughter asked me "What's instagam?" and then proceeded to ask if she could have an account because all her friends were on it. I told her no because I don't like the idea of her on a social network yet (and it's probably against their TOS anyway). Truthfully, I don't know why there isn't a K-12 social network that has schools and teachers, and kids were grouped by class,…

Same issue here: pre-teen kids asking about why so-and-so has 100's of Instagram followers. The school system encouraged social networks by introducing Edmodo[1]. Signed our pre-teen up with a private / restricted account but that level of restriction isn't the norm. The photo stream seems like a mix of LOLcats and 4chan/v but with a ton of snarky comments that puts HN'ers to shame.

[1] https://www.edmodo.com

Re: Facebook Is No Longer the Most Popular Social Network for Teens

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Post by kbenson » Fri, Oct 25, 2013, 10:37 PM UTC

alex_doom wrote: post #21

kbenson wrote: post #19

The other night at dinner my eleven year old daughter asked me "What's instagam?" and then proceeded to ask if she could have an account because all her friends were on it. I told her no because I don't like the idea of her on a social network yet (and it's probably against their TOS anyway). Truthfully, I don't know why there isn't a K-12 social network that has schools and teachers, and kids were grouped by class,…

Because kids would never use it. They like their hidden caves. It's similar to passing secret notes to each other in class. Except now they can do it from afar.

Oh, they would use it if it was a valuable resource for asking for help with homework, communicating with other students and teachers, the only way to contact some of their friends (which aren't allowed on other networks), or in any way mandated. Parents would like it for the control it offered, and kids aren't in total control of their choices.

Kids might also want and indeed use other social networks, but I would feel much more comfortable as a parent telling them no if I knew they had this to fall back on.

Re: Facebook Is No Longer the Most Popular Social Network for Teens

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Post by 67726e » Fri, Oct 25, 2013, 10:42 PM UTC

tankbot wrote: post #10

Um, since Instagram is Facebook, by my estimate Facebook owns 46% of that graph and is still most popular by a long-shot.

If you want to get pedantic, then the Facebook corporation is the most popular social network corporation. We're talking about platforms here, not the parent company.

Re: Facebook Is No Longer the Most Popular Social Network for Teens

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Post by ellumiakat » Fri, Oct 25, 2013, 10:44 PM UTC

kbenson wrote: post #19

The other night at dinner my eleven year old daughter asked me "What's instagam?" and then proceeded to ask if she could have an account because all her friends were on it. I told her no because I don't like the idea of her on a social network yet (and it's probably against their TOS anyway). Truthfully, I don't know why there isn't a K-12 social network that has schools and teachers, and kids were grouped by class,…

I'd be worried about the burden this places on teachers (if they are policing it). The normal age 15 cut off seems reasonable. Kids can just deal with it (or resourcefully sneak around if so inclined).