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I was excited for about five seconds, and then I realized that this thing is way the hell more complicated than I need. All I want is a way to put the current weather on my lockscreen under the time, and to put immediate access to camera, flashlight, and Google Now there. Everything else I'm perfectly comfortable doing myself. Any suggestions for an app that does that?

If you were using AOKP or CyanogenMod or any of a dozen other alternate Android builds, you would already have that.

When I tap the power button, I get: current weather, time, next calendar item.

When I touch the unlock symbol, dragging it right unlocks the phone, but dragging it up, down or left gets me to the phone, camera, and my ebook reader.

All of this is configurable, including the number of items available at unlock time. Downside: the unlock icons are not available if you use a PIN or password.

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This terrifies me. There's an instant problem of paranoia, and trust here. I would never be okay with the idea of an application monitoring what I'm doing, in order to reorder itself. Mind you, I say all this without knowing if it requests network access. How do I know you're not sending my usage patterns upstream to CoverCorp? How do I know that you're not reading the Android Music Provider database, and sharing my…

So, let's say your worst fears are true, and it's sending up a log of every app you use. What happens then? What's the harm? I'm not being rhetorical, I really don't follow what the fear is here. I can't imagine how my life would be any different if some company knows that I launched chrome at 12:22, then hangouts at 12:30, then some half-assed game at 12:35.

Sorry, I'm relatively new here, so I don't know the etiquette, so I'm responding to you directly. I appreciate the question!

Firstly, it's not a matter of what's the harm, it's a matter of what's their right. The only person with a right to my information is me. I can appreciate the need for financial data sharing (note: need), but I don't appreciate the "need" of phone application data.

My example above with music is a good one. What if the CRIA (RIAA up here) decides to come after me for my music collection, based solely on data gleaned from this company. I own 800+ cds, I've dutifully ripped them all, I've bought another 100+ albums on iTunes, eMusic, etc. But I can't prove the eMusic ones. They're MP3s, and more importantly, because I'm pro-privacy, each one has been regenerated from the original MP3s, headers ripped. That means the MP3 looks nothing like the one I purchased. The problem in the current court system is that although the notion of innocent until proven guilty exists, it would take a long time to establish that reasonable doubt. And this is for legitimate usage of my music collection.

Let's go a (perhaps crazy) step further, pretend you're in America (disclosure: I'm in Canada), and you have two political parties. Political party "A" produces an app that you download, just to check it out. All of a sudden you're deemed to be an "A" as opposed to a "B". As data gets sold, or to be legally accurate "shared only within our partner organizations" you apply for a mortgage at a bank wherein the loan officer is affiliated with "B", and your loan gets denied? Why should your political interest (not even affiliation) have anything to do with your ability to receive financing.

Extend that concept to interest in health insurance, or VPN network usage, or a more realistic general interest in chemistry (I like model rockets, they need propellant).

The reality of the situation is that corporations cannot be trusted, neither can government. At the very least the EXTREME MAJORITY of Terms of Service agreements make it abundantly clear that "data is only shared with partners" or something similar. The net result is that anyone can partner.

Sorry if that came off rantish.

Re: Introducing Cover

#83

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When we give up all privacy, suddenly it no longer exists.

This is true. And... if you're on the Internet, I'm sorry, but you can have no reasonable expectation of privacy. That includes owning a smartphone.

Agreed. Smartphones are nice little tracking devices, now helpfully with GPS!

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They're going to have the same problem as Facebook Home. They're essentially doing an overlay activity like most of us do. It only works as they describe provided the user keeps the device unlocked in the system. You can't bypass the device lock screen without rooting the device.

I thought the main problem users had with Facebook Home was "where did my widgets to?"

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I was excited for about five seconds, and then I realized that this thing is way the hell more complicated than I need. All I want is a way to put the current weather on my lockscreen under the time, and to put immediate access to camera, flashlight, and Google Now there. Everything else I'm perfectly comfortable doing myself. Any suggestions for an app that does that?

Weather and time on lockscreen is easy using one of the widgets that can be placed into an Android lockscreen, for example DashClock: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.nurik.roma...

Shortcuts... edge swipe from bottom on my lockscreen gives Google Now (after asking for the security code). On my Nexus 4, edge swipe from right brought the camera, though that doesn't seem to be working on the Nexus 7 I have now.

For flashlight you could maybe add this extension to DashClock: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fleckdalm....

Note: this is assuming that you have a stock Android 4.x lockscreen. No idea whether these things work on one of the custom vendor lockscreens.

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#86
Wow, so much negativity!

What happened to the dreams of a computer in your pocket that knew what you wanted to do?

All anyone can think of is to complain about privacy? Really?

I once did a brainstorm session with a facilitator who taught me a great technique. Whenever someone suggests something you aren't allowed to so "No" or "But" - instead you should say "Yes" or "And".

Try it for a second:

This application tries to predict what you will need when you pick your phone up. Currently it uses serverside processing to help with that. Yes, and imagine what else it could do with that serverside power! No battery constraints to worry about!

Privacy problems are a great way to kill good ideas. Put those concerns aside for a minute and imagine the portability of handheld devices merged with the power of always-on servers.

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I could build you one of those without privacy intrusion, and add the ability to switch from home/work/car automatically using GPS. I'd be happy with 1% of what they raised , anyone interested? :(

We could do it all together on assembly - I can fast track through to assemblymade.com/ideas (Disclaimer: founder)

Dude, can I just say I wanna make love with the idea behind assembly? I just saw the website and video and it makes so much sense!!

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post #86

Wow, so much negativity! What happened to the dreams of a computer in your pocket that knew what you wanted to do? All anyone can think of is to complain about privacy? Really? I once did a brainstorm session with a facilitator who taught me a great technique. Whenever someone suggests something you aren't allowed to so "No" or "But" - instead you should say "Yes" or "And". Try it for a second: This application tries…

Yes and privacy problems are still real issues especially as privacy rights are continuously eroded every single day.

Just because you wanted something in your pocket to solve all your problems, doesn't mean everyone else did. Many of us wanted a great tool, not a buddy or advisor or mind-reader.

Every technological development has many possible routes it can follow, it can't follow them all. And you will inevitably be disappointed at some of the routes it takes.

Can you imagine what it must be like to be Richard Stallman or Ted Nelson with a clearly articulated vision of the future but so many things go the other way?

Re: Introducing Cover

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post #86

Wow, so much negativity! What happened to the dreams of a computer in your pocket that knew what you wanted to do? All anyone can think of is to complain about privacy? Really? I once did a brainstorm session with a facilitator who taught me a great technique. Whenever someone suggests something you aren't allowed to so "No" or "But" - instead you should say "Yes" or "And". Try it for a second: This application tries…

> What happened to the dreams of a computer in your pocket that knew what you wanted to do?

"Yes", the dream lives on; your pocket, your computer, your life -- dream on.

"But" this is a for profit business.

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