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Seagate just reinvented the disk interface using Ethernet

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Re: Seagate just reinvented the disk interface using Ethernet

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I wish SD cards would implement a key-value storage interface natively. It would instantly remove the need to implement a filesystem in many embedded systems eg. music players: all they need is access to keys (song filenames) and values (blob of ogg/mp3 data).

As some doing a bit of embedded system work these days, I was wondering why the MCU manufacturers don't offer a key value store(Even small ones would do) for configuration purposes.

The most famous ways of managing configuration is serializing a structure on EEPROM/Flash, or writing a string with lengths of the strings as delimiters.

Even if you assume, its for saving space etc. The way I see you will inevitably use space while you write the code to serialize and de serialize the configuration data.

Re: Seagate just reinvented the disk interface using Ethernet

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post #26

I don't understand why this is branded as a Ethernet protocol when it's a IP protocol

It communicates over ethernet, which is what matters. So it doesn't matter that much, and people understand what it means -- in the same way it doesn't matter you just said "IP protocol", which expands to "internet protocol protocol".

Re: Seagate just reinvented the disk interface using Ethernet

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As a counterpoint: A slightly less gushing article with some good comments (yes, even on El Reg) http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/10/22/seagate_letting_apps... Comments along the lines of "Backups? Snapshots? RAID? How they handling this then?"

Bitrot? Error recovery? SMART data? ...?

Re: Seagate just reinvented the disk interface using Ethernet

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"Über alles" will be primarily associated with Hitler's anthem of the Third Reich by most native speakers of German who know some history. Not a good choice for a title.

Do Germans really associate that phrase mostly with Hitler? I find it quite surprising because despite not being German (nor German-speaking) I know that this phrase comes from the first verse of the Deutschlandlied.

Unless the author wanted to imply that Seagate should seek to eradicate any other kind of harddisk interface with zealot-like madness, he shouldn't have used that phrase. Really, the first second I opened the website I noticed this poor choice of words. And yes, I am German.

Re: Seagate just reinvented the disk interface using Ethernet

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post #12

"Über alles" will be primarily associated with Hitler's anthem of the Third Reich by most native speakers of German who know some history. Not a good choice for a title.

Yes a very poor choice of phrase, esp when he could've used anything else. He's not alone ; this issue came up just yesterday: http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/culture/davidbolt/100071146/how...

That's interesting. The word 'Sonderkommando' has no negative connotation at all in German. Is it something specific to how the British look at WW2? Or is it just the usually outrage between parties?

Re: Seagate just reinvented the disk interface using Ethernet

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anything over fibre or non standard cabling is likely to remain expensive for quite some time. 2.5Gb is about the limit of cheap alas for a long time.

Fibre is not required to beat the 2.5Gb/s limit. Standard copper Cat 6a cables already support 10Gb/s for distances up to 100m.

If people have 6A and you use a large amount more power. For an application like a hard drive the power consumption of the ethernet connection would be more than the rest of the system probably.
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