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Self-driving cars projected to reduce injuries by 90%, save $450B annually

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Re: Self-driving cars projected to reduce injuries by 90%, save $450B annually

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

kevinnk wrote: post #36
jrs99 wrote: post #34

one thing: I do NOT like the idea of riding in a self-driven car when the majority of other cars are driven by humans. That doesn't seem ideal to me. I worry about a self-driving car driving exactly the speed limit and not being able to speed up whenever you need to, to either keep up with the traffic, or when someone is tailgating you. Especially at night, when you are driving and tired people drive straight up to y…

I think a solution for this would be to have the "self driving" speed limit be 10-15mph faster then the normal limit on highways. Since driverless cars can react faster this wouldn't cause more accidents and it would allow driverless cars to keep up with traffic. Plus, if traffic slows there's nothing stopping the driverless car from slowing down as well.

Right. Speed limited are for humans. A computer could be allowed to objectively select a safe speed to travel.

Re: Self-driving cars projected to reduce injuries by 90%, save $450B annually

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Post by warfangle »

mden wrote: post #50
nick2 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This will be taken care of by insurance companies. If the data is there to show that automatic cars are involved in a lot less accidents than regular cars, the insurance premium will be prohibitively expensive for non-automatic cars. Only rich folks will be able to drive.

Why would the premium be higher than what it is right now?

Because profit.

Re: Self-driving cars projected to reduce injuries by 90%, save $450B annually

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Post by tempestn »

kevinnk wrote: post #36
jrs99 wrote: post #34

one thing: I do NOT like the idea of riding in a self-driven car when the majority of other cars are driven by humans. That doesn't seem ideal to me. I worry about a self-driving car driving exactly the speed limit and not being able to speed up whenever you need to, to either keep up with the traffic, or when someone is tailgating you. Especially at night, when you are driving and tired people drive straight up to y…

I think a solution for this would be to have the "self driving" speed limit be 10-15mph faster then the normal limit on highways. Since driverless cars can react faster this wouldn't cause more accidents and it would allow driverless cars to keep up with traffic. Plus, if traffic slows there's nothing stopping the driverless car from slowing down as well.

Or even better, just set speed limits at realistic levels (around the 85th percentile of natural traffic flow) for everyone. That said, I assume the driverless vehicles would at least be programmed to exceed the speed limit if necessary for an emergency maneuver.

Re: Self-driving cars projected to reduce injuries by 90%, save $450B annually

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Post by Ma8ee »

jrs99 wrote: post #34

one thing: I do NOT like the idea of riding in a self-driven car when the majority of other cars are driven by humans. That doesn't seem ideal to me. I worry about a self-driving car driving exactly the speed limit and not being able to speed up whenever you need to, to either keep up with the traffic, or when someone is tailgating you. Especially at night, when you are driving and tired people drive straight up to y…

Why speeding up when being tailgated? I usually just lift my foot from the gas pedal. If you think I'm too slow, then fucking pass, don't try to bully me into driving faster.

Re: Self-driving cars projected to reduce injuries by 90%, save $450B annually

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Post by kingkilr »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #61
kevinnk wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think a solution for this would be to have the "self driving" speed limit be 10-15mph faster then the normal limit on highways. Since driverless cars can react faster this wouldn't cause more accidents and it would allow driverless cars to keep up with traffic. Plus, if traffic slows there's nothing stopping the driverless car from slowing down as well.

Right. Speed limited are for humans. A computer could be allowed to objectively select a safe speed to travel.

Speed limits aren't even for people, modern highway speed limits in the US were set based on gas efficiency.

Re: Self-driving cars projected to reduce injuries by 90%, save $450B annually

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Post by ekianjo »

drewrv wrote: post #22
mmanfrin wrote: post #2

I am really excited for the possible future of self-driving electric taxis. All the pieces kind of fit together: you can use an app to dispatch and gauge number of fleet vehicles to put out (Google just bought a huge stake in Uber), self-driving cabs can return themselves for a recharge when low on batter and another vehicle can replace it instantly, the amount of cars on the road can scale with demand fluidly. There…

They will be a ton cheaper too. Lower fuel costs, maintenance costs, and labor costs. The three most expensive costs associated with operating a taxi will be lowered significantly.

By governments will probably still tax Taxi ownership just like they do now, and just like for the airline industry you'll end up with taxes doubling the price of your trip. I don't believe in a cheap future of transportation as long as government has a say in it...

Re: Self-driving cars projected to reduce injuries by 90%, save $450B annually

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Post by jrs99 »

Ma8ee wrote: post #64
jrs99 wrote: post #34

one thing: I do NOT like the idea of riding in a self-driven car when the majority of other cars are driven by humans. That doesn't seem ideal to me. I worry about a self-driving car driving exactly the speed limit and not being able to speed up whenever you need to, to either keep up with the traffic, or when someone is tailgating you. Especially at night, when you are driving and tired people drive straight up to y…

Why speeding up when being tailgated? I usually just lift my foot from the gas pedal. If you think I'm too slow, then fucking pass, don't try to bully me into driving faster.

When you're driving at like 3 am and there's someone that's approaching you, it's usually not because they're bullying you. It's that they're driving around 70mph and they're tired and their reflexes are slow when they're tired.

Re: Self-driving cars projected to reduce injuries by 90%, save $450B annually

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Post by theblackswan »

It has some great cost advantages especially for those who run the business with multiple taxi. You can grow your fleet without worrying about the human resource.

Sadly technologies like these have not even point percentage acceptance. Trains and planes are capable of auto driven since ages but we don't actually see them put to use.

Re: Self-driving cars projected to reduce injuries by 90%, save $450B annually

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

theblackswan wrote: post #68

It has some great cost advantages especially for those who run the business with multiple taxi. You can grow your fleet without worrying about the human resource. Sadly technologies like these have not even point percentage acceptance. Trains and planes are capable of auto driven since ages but we don't actually see them put to use.

Auto pilots have been used on trains and planes for a long time. We just haven't gotten rid of the human pilots on planes and most trains yet.

Re: Self-driving cars projected to reduce injuries by 90%, save $450B annually

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Post by jrs99 »

div wrote: post #39
jrs99 wrote: post #34

one thing: I do NOT like the idea of riding in a self-driven car when the majority of other cars are driven by humans. That doesn't seem ideal to me. I worry about a self-driving car driving exactly the speed limit and not being able to speed up whenever you need to, to either keep up with the traffic, or when someone is tailgating you. Especially at night, when you are driving and tired people drive straight up to y…

There's no reason for a self-driving car to prioritise adhering to the speed limit over avoiding a collision though. Any sufficiently advanced self-driving AI will try to avoid being rear-ended like that. Even better, when a collision is unavoidable, an AI has a much better chance at making the 'right' decision as to how to crash.

I think we'll eventually get there. But right now, it must be an obstacle to try to know if a car is "bullying" you or really going to hit you.
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