NSA monitored calls of 35 world leaders
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NSA monitored calls of 35 world leaders
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Re: NSA monitored calls of 35 world leaders
#2Quite expected. My disappointment with the US gov and its general attitude is reaching new levels. Really BAD.
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#3 Jay Carney issued a statement that said the US
"is not monitoring and will not monitor" the
German chancellor's communications.
Reminds me of a Spaceballs scene:
Colonel Sandurz: Now. You're looking at now, sir.
Everything that happens now, is happening now.
Dark Helmet: What happened to then?
Colonel Sandurz: We passed then.
Dark Helmet: When?
Colonel Sandurz: Just now. We're at now now.
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#4US Foreign Policy: How to turn friends into enemies and isolate yourself from the world
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#5Yes. And the US is the only country whose intelligence service has ever done anything like this.
And newsflash ... we probably bug your embassies too.
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#6This is the understood and expected function of the NSA, isn't it? Collecting signals intelligence from foreign sources? Does anyone honestly believe the Germans aren't regularly trying to figure out ways to listen to American officials' communications?
I find the NSA's domestic spying to be appalling... but this is the sort of thing everyone knew the NSA was responsible for since its inception.
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#7US Foreign Policy: How to turn friends into enemies and isolate yourself from the world
Well to be fair, the Germans did try to kill us all.
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#8When ability is no longer a bottleneck on the actions of an individual or group, that is the time that the character of that individual or group is discovered.
The character of the US government in general, and the NSA in particular, is apparently that of a rotten, sneaking, dishonest liar.
I cannot say that I am surprised, human nature being what it is, but I am very disappointed.
On the bright side, it is in good international company.
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#9I genuinely fail to be outraged by this. The NSA has a job, which is the monitoring of the signals of foreign militaries and governments. That they were doing that is not surprising or necessarily bad since those entities should be more than capable of operating in such an environment.
The problem is the mass slurping of the data of everyone else.
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#10A note to say that the Stop Watching Us coalition rally is now just two days away. If you're on the east coast, it's not too late to attend. If you're interested, you can find out more here:
https://rally.stopwatching.us/
Privacy is one of the hardest things to get folks riled up about. It erodes slowly, and for "good" reasons, like defending the country against terrorism. But privacy is critical to a meaningful democracy. Strangely, many of the members of Congress fail to understand how important it is, and that compromising our privacy for security is a huge mistake. Particularly since those compromises are not necessary.
The fact that the NSA is monitoring the calls of world leaders is also worrying. But it's more of a foreign policy issue, damaging international relations and making it more difficult for countries to trust the US. I think it's foolish, and needs to stop, but it doesn't threaten our freedom directly.