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The iPad to enrich people's live... Sorry, but the iPad/tablets are mostly used for browsing, creating photos and using apps and games. That's not really "enriching" life as i see it, it's a consumer device, not a production device... If you really want to make it enriching, make it non-obtrusive. And i would feel sorry for those whose life really is enriched with a electronic device.

My daughter can create music with Easy Beats 3, she likes the auto drumming thing in garage band because she can record her own songs. She also likes to paint pictures with Paper, she has hot own books so we can keep our drawing separate and so we can print them out or share them. Finally, she makes little animations with Hopscotch. While these are all creativity generators she and I both refer to them as games. I do…

You are probably the one that got it.

But none the less, although your examples are fine. If you want to really produce things like songs, you're going to use software like Ableton Live. Which aren't adjusted for tablets because of hardware (eg. a high quality audio card) or just don't deliver enough productivity.

I don't have any experience with drawings, but can you name someone who is well known that created their paintings/drawings with a tablet? I presume (except 3D artists, graphic designers), all of them are going for handmade stuff. The rest of them produces them with their computers.

And as you explained it, the drawings and the songs in this case are games, not suitable for production. Production takes days, not minutes. That's mostly the difference between consuming and producing things.

I do hope you or your daughter get more interested though, producing can be great.

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The iPad to enrich people's live... Sorry, but the iPad/tablets are mostly used for browsing, creating photos and using apps and games. That's not really "enriching" life as i see it, it's a consumer device, not a production device... If you really want to make it enriching, make it non-obtrusive. And i would feel sorry for those whose life really is enriched with a electronic device.

I don't think the huge number of severely disabled people, that use Apple products to greatly enrich their lives due to their best-in-class accessibility features, really need your pity all that much. That's aside form the effect iOS is having on education. Just take a look at "Bobo Explores Light" and "Dragonbox", not to mention the dozens of Khan Academy videos my girls have watched on their iPad Minis. Then there'…

Education?

Why would you remember anything if you can just look it up on Google? :) - Google effects on the brain.

Why do you need to know spelling, if you have auto-correct on your device?

What did they do with the Khan Academy videos? Did they have a pen and paper with them? Or a pc to do things with it? Note stuff on it. Then they used their tablet to consume things and something else to produce things :)

Yeah, you can watch videos (consuming) to produce on something else :). You can learn by consuming, yes. I have never said otherwise.

PS. Reading is still consuming, watching videos (educational or not) is still consuming.

PS II. I know people get easier access to digital media with a tablet. In that way, it can be enriching.

But severly disabled people can (indeed) enrich their lives with a tablet. But it's still through consuming and not producing.

Heck, here was an article i read some years ago from someone who explains it better then me: http://impossiblehq.com/an-unexpected-ass-kicking

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Just 80%? I think you're being very generous. 95%? 98%?

You're being very generous, 99.9% is probably still too generous.

My standpoint on enriching lives was in case of producing.

Every startup is producing on a non-tablet (pc or laptop), perhaps they make things for tablets, sure.

My words were poorly chosen on the part of "enriching lives" through consuming, i agree.

Take off the last 2 lines of my sentence and it would be more clear what i meant.

A tablet is for consuming, not for producing. (taking pictures and putting a filter on it in 10 seconds is not producing, but consuming)

Every startup is producing things. 0% of the startups are producing their app/webapp/... with a tablet.

A tablet is created to consume, not to produce, that was the point i was trying to make :)

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It's 2013 and most people's data is in the cloud rather than on local devices? Just because something is capable of doing something doesn't mean it should. A Truck is capable of street racing, but you'd be better off in an actual racing car. Make devices for specific use cases, not for everything. That's how you end up with Windows 8.

Yes, it's 2013 and both Verizon and ATT are still charging $50/month for 5GB. Until unlimited plans at reasonable prices become available, cloud+mobile is useless to me and it'd be more affordable to store media on my device instead of streaming it.

Which why it's awesome that it's 2013 and anywhere worth being has WIFI.

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My daughter can create music with Easy Beats 3, she likes the auto drumming thing in garage band because she can record her own songs. She also likes to paint pictures with Paper, she has hot own books so we can keep our drawing separate and so we can print them out or share them. Finally, she makes little animations with Hopscotch. While these are all creativity generators she and I both refer to them as games. I do…

You are probably the one that got it. But none the less, although your examples are fine. If you want to really produce things like songs, you're going to use software like Ableton Live. Which aren't adjusted for tablets because of hardware (eg. a high quality audio card) or just don't deliver enough productivity. I don't have any experience with drawings, but can you name someone who is well known that created their…

I can't name anyone offhand that uses a tablet as primary, but anyone who produces with a computer very likely uses something like the Intuos5 drawing tablet. With a tool like Procreate or one of the Autodesk apps the only difference between drawing on a computer and drawing on a tablet is that with a tablet, the tablet directly connect your pen to the digital medium and you just need the stylus.

When it come to making music, absolutely - for professional grade content one would need to use proper tools. I'm barely an amateur and while I enjoy recording my songs and adding to them with garage band, I'm more interested in spending my precious free time doodling with sound than trying to make a living with it. It's better than watching commercials on network tv. Professional do use it for creating though: one example is this - http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2013-04/22/trent-reznor-... but there are other pros whom are turning to devices as a way to extend their creativity and enhance their performances. So, I believe that we are not far away from a device powerful enough to record, generate and mix professional quality sound for a fraction of what a recording studio of similar quality cost.

I do think I understand your position and you are likely correct. However there is this anecedal observation I have: people of my parents generation, when they use a smart phone; tablet or computer are very likely to consume with either email, web surfing or one variant of the addicting games that are free. However, being overly optimistic and observing my daughter and her peers as they grow up with device first and computer second I hope/believe/think (not sure if any of those words are correct but they are close) that they will have little choice but to learn to use it as the tool it is and push that to its limits and then extend it for their own purposes.

For the record, while I am an apple customer I'm under no illusion that their products are better or more successful than the other consumer electronics makers out there. It works for me and mine and that's why I stay with it. When it doesn't any more and I need to move on to something else, I'm glad there are robust ecosystems out there I can explore.

Re: iPad Air

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You are probably the one that got it. But none the less, although your examples are fine. If you want to really produce things like songs, you're going to use software like Ableton Live. Which aren't adjusted for tablets because of hardware (eg. a high quality audio card) or just don't deliver enough productivity. I don't have any experience with drawings, but can you name someone who is well known that created their…

I can't name anyone offhand that uses a tablet as primary, but anyone who produces with a computer very likely uses something like the Intuos5 drawing tablet. With a tool like Procreate or one of the Autodesk apps the only difference between drawing on a computer and drawing on a tablet is that with a tablet, the tablet directly connect your pen to the digital medium and you just need the stylus. When it come to maki…

I agree on most points, my only argument is that the Intuos5 drawing tablet is developped for a defined action (drawing), where a normal tablet hasn't (allround device), their could be a future where the tablet is really used for producing things, but not today.

For the record, i'm not an Apple fan anymore . I've bought the iPhone 3GS and iPod 32 GB (the fat one) as an "early adapter" in the past and both products had disappointed me (software fault on the iPod's hard-drive firmware and failed support from Apple).

What's more, those costly Apple devices seemed the only electronic devices that haven't survived more then a year. For example, my HTC Desire (2010 - Cyanogenmod) still works as a charm, my primary phone is a S2 (bought somewhere in 2012 and yet again, Cyanogenmod) and i still have a Nokia 1100 (2004 and no Cyanogenmod :P) in my car just in case something would happen. Added bonus, that old phone had a flashlight ;-)

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