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OS X Mavericks adoption pushing past 7% in under 24 hours

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Re: OS X Mavericks adoption pushing past 7% in under 24 hours

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Post by tlrobinson »

micampe wrote: post #24
reginaldjcooper wrote: post #12

That's because it's a free upgrade that improves speed, battery life, adds multi-monitor support, and removes the dumb leather interfaces. This is the first time since Snow Leopard that I felt new OS X was an upgrade; not a downgrade just to continue using Xcode.

I honestly don’t get the fuss about multi-monitor support. Mavericks doesn’t add multi-monitor support, it’s always been there. What Mavericks does is fix multi-monitor behavior for fullscreen applications, which I personally would never use on a display larger than 13" anyway, non-fullscreen behavior hardly changed, so I really don’t understand the big deal.

Fixing multi-monitor fullscreen support was my only desired "feature" since they broke it about 4 years ago.

Re: OS X Mavericks adoption pushing past 7% in under 24 hours

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Post by ssharp »

encoderer wrote: post #6
madmax96 wrote: post #2

That's impressive, but then again Apple is _giving away_ copies, so I'm not too surprised. It's more interesting considering what this means as an Operating System developer. If they're giving away copies, it shows that Operating Systems are truly commoditized (as well as the huge profits that Apple is raking in!)

No all it really shows is that it's a loss leader for Apple. Much the same way Microsoft made the browser a loss leader because it made money on the OS, Apple is making the OS a loss leader because it's making money on the hardware.

I'm not even sure if I'd call it a loss leader, solely based on "making it up" in hardware margins.

I think you could show that by having much larger %'s of its user base being up to date and adopting new releases faster, that it cuts costs in other areas and makes it a more attractive platform. Just spitballing here, but less users on old versions should reduce support costs, create a better user experience for more of its users, and entice developers to take advantage of new features, which may further differentiate the platform from competitors.

I'd have to think that creates more long-term value for the company than making $30 bucks per license. And that's not even calculating the customer goodwill by making the updates free.

Re: OS X Mavericks adoption pushing past 7% in under 24 hours

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Post by bdunbar »

micampe wrote: post #24
reginaldjcooper wrote: post #12

That's because it's a free upgrade that improves speed, battery life, adds multi-monitor support, and removes the dumb leather interfaces. This is the first time since Snow Leopard that I felt new OS X was an upgrade; not a downgrade just to continue using Xcode.

I honestly don’t get the fuss about multi-monitor support. Mavericks doesn’t add multi-monitor support, it’s always been there. What Mavericks does is fix multi-monitor behavior for fullscreen applications, which I personally would never use on a display larger than 13" anyway, non-fullscreen behavior hardly changed, so I really don’t understand the big deal.

It is, I'm told, ideal for paired coding.

Re: OS X Mavericks adoption pushing past 7% in under 24 hours

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Post by RyanZAG »

kalleboo wrote: post #28
RyanZAG wrote: post #23

Possibly a big part of this fast adoption is that you can upgrade to Mavericks from previous OSX releases - you can skip over Mountain Lion, etc. So a lot of the people who never paid to upgrade their OS before can now skip directly to Mavericks and get all of the previous OS improvements for 'free'.

Although looking at these charts, it seems like right now it's only users who were already on Mountain Lion who are upgrading - the other lines are flat.

Going off the 'chart' (which is probably the worst chart I've ever seen), it looks to me like the bottom line has dropped a lot. I think the bottom line probably isn't Mountain Lion?

Are you using some chart where you can actually see which OS is which ?

EDIT: The chart is broken in Firefox - it works fine in Webkit only. Goodbye open web, was nice knowing you.

Anyway, I see you're right. Lion and Snow Leopard are both roughly where they started. So I change my opinion - the 7-8% who have upgraded to Mavericks are likely the people who follow Apple closely and so were already on Mountain Lion to start with. This might signal that the fast upgrade speed may slow down quickly as it implies only the small part of the OSX population who follows Apple news is upgrading so far?

Re: OS X Mavericks adoption pushing past 7% in under 24 hours

#36

Post by achy »

micampe wrote: post #24
reginaldjcooper wrote: post #12

That's because it's a free upgrade that improves speed, battery life, adds multi-monitor support, and removes the dumb leather interfaces. This is the first time since Snow Leopard that I felt new OS X was an upgrade; not a downgrade just to continue using Xcode.

I honestly don’t get the fuss about multi-monitor support. Mavericks doesn’t add multi-monitor support, it’s always been there. What Mavericks does is fix multi-monitor behavior for fullscreen applications, which I personally would never use on a display larger than 13" anyway, non-fullscreen behavior hardly changed, so I really don’t understand the big deal.

A lot of people have macbooks and external secondary displays. Just as you said, these people should be able to go fullscreen on their laptop and still utilize the connected display...

Re: OS X Mavericks adoption pushing past 7% in under 24 hours

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Post by kalleboo »

RyanZAG wrote: post #34
kalleboo wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Although looking at these charts, it seems like right now it's only users who were already on Mountain Lion who are upgrading - the other lines are flat.

Going off the 'chart' (which is probably the worst chart I've ever seen), it looks to me like the bottom line has dropped a lot. I think the bottom line probably isn't Mountain Lion? Are you using some chart where you can actually see which OS is which ? EDIT: The chart is broken in Firefox - it works fine in Webkit only. Goodbye open web, was nice knowing you. Anyway, I see you're right. Lion and Snow Leopard are bo…

The bold line is Mavericks, and correlating the lines to the numbers, the top one is Mountain Lion. Looking at the numbers on the onhover legend, neither of the bottom two lines seemed to have changed much if at all (it's very noisy).

Re: OS X Mavericks adoption pushing past 7% in under 24 hours

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Post by RealCasually »

micampe wrote: post #24
reginaldjcooper wrote: post #12

That's because it's a free upgrade that improves speed, battery life, adds multi-monitor support, and removes the dumb leather interfaces. This is the first time since Snow Leopard that I felt new OS X was an upgrade; not a downgrade just to continue using Xcode.

I honestly don’t get the fuss about multi-monitor support. Mavericks doesn’t add multi-monitor support, it’s always been there. What Mavericks does is fix multi-monitor behavior for fullscreen applications, which I personally would never use on a display larger than 13" anyway, non-fullscreen behavior hardly changed, so I really don’t understand the big deal.

Not to mention the addition of menu bars on both monitors, and the ability to trivially show the dock on either monitor with a quick flick of the mouse.

Re: OS X Mavericks adoption pushing past 7% in under 24 hours

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Post by baddox »

kalleboo wrote: post #27
micampe wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I honestly don’t get the fuss about multi-monitor support. Mavericks doesn’t add multi-monitor support, it’s always been there. What Mavericks does is fix multi-monitor behavior for fullscreen applications, which I personally would never use on a display larger than 13" anyway, non-fullscreen behavior hardly changed, so I really don’t understand the big deal.

Ideal uses for full screen on an external monitor: Video, presentations, photo slideshows.

Didn't those applications all already support full screen "the old way"?
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