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Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

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Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

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If you're too busy to read the whole article or watch the keynote, also note that you can upgrade directly from Snow Leopard or later. They listed the hardware models which will take it as well– the 2007 Mac Minis and MacBook Pros are supposedly good to go.

That's confusing, didn't they charge to upgrade to ML. Doesn't that then infer they should refund anyone who paid for an ML upgrade?

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Linux is not free, you still need to buy a computer.

Any computer. Including the one you already own, and none of which are produced by the Linux Foundation. I will give that driver support for wifi cards may make some computers more awkward than others. It's very rare these days that any common device other than a wifi card or a just this week released graphics card causes problems any more. (As an aside, how do you escape asterisks here?)

Let me google that for you, I'll be back with the answer in just a minute.

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

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A boot to the face of Microsoft.

Microsoft sells software, Apple sells hardware with matching software. But make no mistake, they are a hardware company - OSX won't even run without a chip confirming its an authentic Mac. The idea that they would charge for these smaller OSX updates is bizarre, and the price point has been in the "we need this for accounting" range in the past.

What chip? I have a hakintosh with 10.8.4..

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

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post #3

If you're too busy to read the whole article or watch the keynote, also note that you can upgrade directly from Snow Leopard or later. They listed the hardware models which will take it as well– the 2007 Mac Minis and MacBook Pros are supposedly good to go.

That's confusing, didn't they charge to upgrade to ML. Doesn't that then infer they should refund anyone who paid for an ML upgrade?

Why? I got what they paid for. I don't feel slighted.

I don't really understand how you can be confused.

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

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10.8 didn't support that MBA, so I'm not sure why you would hope that 10.9 would suddenly reintroduce compatibility.

Maybe because the App Store requirements, rather strangely, say "OSX 10.6.8". I suspect that might well be why it's free - can't have lots of people paying for something they can't use, much easier to do the checks during installation than at POS, and there will be a LOT of compatibility issues with various machines on the cusp.

I tried buying Mountain Lion on a machine that ran Lion but doesn't support ML, and the App Store does have hardware checks at point of sale. It won't let you buy/download it if your machine is incompatible.

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

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free fre·er, fre·est, adverb, verb, freed, free·ing. adjective 1. enjoying personal rights or liberty, as a person who is not in slavery: a land of free people. 2. pertaining to or reserved for those who enjoy personal liberty: They were thankful to be living on free soil. 3. existing under, characterized by, or possessing civil and political liberties that are, as a rule, constitutionally guaranteed by representativ…

lit·er·al·ly 1. in a literal manner or sense; exactly. 2. used for emphasis or to express strong feeling while not being literally true. Words are literally defined by how they are actually used by humans over time. If I hold up a sign saying "Free Donuts", no one is going to think I mean that pastries should be liberated. To unnecessarily cling to the word "free" when it has a more obvious secondary meaning is to ti…

If I say "A free bird", it's quite dubious if it is a free bird as in the beatles song, or if i'm giving away caged birds with no cost.

The two meanings are quite common in the english language, it's not a pedantic invention of the FOSS community to make this distinction.

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post #254

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Kernel Caches that aren't cleared properly will do this, the display drivers changes significantly and they're stored in PRAM

That's definitely false. PRAM only contains firmware settings and boot parameters. It isn't big enough to contain drivers. If the display driver is at fault, grandparent wouldn't even see a mouse cursor. I don't know anything about 'properly cleaning the kernel caches', but it's clearly not a problem since grandparent was able to continue by rebooting.

PRAM stores a bootarg that boots off the current caches. There's an issue with DMProxy and the display drivers that causes the black screen + cursor issue described. Hardrebooting has the benefit of causing the magic in the EFI to supply a -f (ignore kernelcaches)

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

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Well, a much smaller percentage of Windows users are on 8.0 than OS X users are on Snow Leopard or later. If Blue allowed upgrades from Windows 7 for free, that'd be a more equal comparison.

That would be incorrect. There are more Windows 8 users than ever version of OS X combined. Sources: http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/09/02/windows-8-jumps-pa... http://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share....

That's not what he said. He was speaking in percentages relative to each install base.

Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

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A boot to the face of Microsoft.

Microsoft's business model is selling a licensed OS, something which honestly is getting harder every passing day. Apple's business model is selling compelling hardware at a premium price with their own software preloaded. Apple could (and now indeed does) give away their software for free and still make a decent living. Their software wont run on any hardware they haven't already made a profit on, so there's no sign…

Haven't the service packs always been free? I don't remember paying for any, at least...
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