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Re: iPad Air

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Post by hippee-lee »

enraged_camel wrote: post #90
phaus wrote: post #23

So their new commercial for the iPad focuses on the fact that so many people use it for productivity, so why can't Apple create a decent, first-party pressure sensitive stylus, so we don't have to deal with expensive, clunky, third-party solutions.

Steve Jobs said it best: "if you see a stylus, they blew it."

I would wager that Steve Jobs was not very interested in drawing or painting. I'll bet he would understand someone who was into drawing and painting who used a stylus, especially a pressure sensitive stylus.

Re: iPad Air

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Post by josephkern »

GuiA wrote: post #226
NicoJuicy wrote: post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The iPad to enrich people's live... Sorry, but the iPad/tablets are mostly used for browsing, creating photos and using apps and games. That's not really "enriching" life as i see it, it's a consumer device, not a production device... If you really want to make it enriching, make it non-obtrusive. And i would feel sorry for those whose life really is enriched with a electronic device.

By your definition of "enriching", 80% of the startups discussed on HN are not enriching anyone's lives.

Which is probably true even on a more objective measurement of "enriching". Sturgeon's Law is always in effect.

Re: iPad Air

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Post by coob »

AJ007 wrote: post #77
alexeisadeski3 wrote: post #11

Why does Apple depart from the series numbers with the iPad? New iPad, now iPad Air... seems silly?

If you look at the back of the iPhones, the iPhone 3GS was the last one to name itself. Recently an Apple store employee wasn't to happy that I kept saying iPad 4. I suppose in a world where change is frequent and incremental rather than dramatic and rare removing the version number is appropriate to minimize consumer confusion. What strikes me more about this iPad Air is the price points. $499 16GB wifi only is a ve…

The 3GS didn't have it's name on the back. All iPhones have simply said 'iPhone' on the back.

Re: iPad Air

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Post by soheilpro »

NicoJuicy wrote: post #222
ek wrote: post #207

I really, really dislike how much hate there is in this thread. I feel like someone always ends up making similar comments every time there's a new launch from Apple/Microsoft/Google/whomever, and there is never any change. Do you guys get psyched about anything ? On the one end we have "Oh man, iPad air only has 1GB of RAM and 16GB of flash, how stupid" and on the other end we have "iPad hasn't cured cancer yet; wou…

The iPad to enrich people's live... Sorry, but the iPad/tablets are mostly used for browsing, creating photos and using apps and games. That's not really "enriching" life as i see it, it's a consumer device, not a production device... If you really want to make it enriching, make it non-obtrusive. And i would feel sorry for those whose life really is enriched with a electronic device.

My mom uses her iPad to get in touch with her friends on Facebook. She uses it to Skype with her sister who lives in another country everyday. She enjoys browsing family photos and videos on her iPad. She enjoys reading stuff on the web using iPad.

She is 60 and she never learned to use PCs and laptops but she easily uses iPad for the things I mentioned.

iPad has definitely enriched her life.

Re: iPad Air

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Post by chmike »

grey-area wrote: post #220
ricardo wrote: post #212

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The iPad 1 still runs a surprising number of modern apps. My son plays newish games like Angry Birds Star Wars 2 or Asphalt Heat 7 without crashes or minimal lag. Not bad for a 4 year old device with only 256 Megs of RAM. I'm not sure what apps you're running, but I haven't had the same experience. If the app can be downloaded from the store and doesn't prevent you from opening it on older devices (ex: CSR Classic) i…

The browser on my iPad 1 crashes constantly now (running the newer OS). Are you running iOS5 or the OS it came with? Do you do much web browsing on it?

Me too and this is frustrating. With 64bit processor we would expect bigger ram since data grow it's size. 1GB seems too small and I fear I'll hit the memory size wall again too soon. May be the next iPad will have a bigger ram.

Re: iPad Air

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Post by simonh »

NicoJuicy wrote: post #222
ek wrote: post #207

I really, really dislike how much hate there is in this thread. I feel like someone always ends up making similar comments every time there's a new launch from Apple/Microsoft/Google/whomever, and there is never any change. Do you guys get psyched about anything ? On the one end we have "Oh man, iPad air only has 1GB of RAM and 16GB of flash, how stupid" and on the other end we have "iPad hasn't cured cancer yet; wou…

The iPad to enrich people's live... Sorry, but the iPad/tablets are mostly used for browsing, creating photos and using apps and games. That's not really "enriching" life as i see it, it's a consumer device, not a production device... If you really want to make it enriching, make it non-obtrusive. And i would feel sorry for those whose life really is enriched with a electronic device.

I don't think the huge number of severely disabled people, that use Apple products to greatly enrich their lives due to their best-in-class accessibility features, really need your pity all that much.

That's aside form the effect iOS is having on education. Just take a look at "Bobo Explores Light" and "Dragonbox", not to mention the dozens of Khan Academy videos my girls have watched on their iPad Minis. Then there's the times they do their homework with their Mini to hand so they can look up reference material on the web. And then there's bed time, when they often curl up in bed to read an iBook, often a free one from Gutenberg or elsewhere. They've read a lot of Kipling that way.

Re: iPad Air

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Post by nknighthb »

mddw wrote: post #224
nknighthb wrote: post #218

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If Boeing made a jet that everyone over 4' tall had to bend in half to sit in, would you say "hence why larger sizes are available"? 16GB iPads are a poor (or at least mediocre) user experience, even for ordinary users. It's contrary to Apple's ethos to continue making them at all. It's even sillier when you consider that everything else about the baseline $499 model has been drastically improved several times over s…

Ahah, the mythical ordinary user. I know some users. I don't know if they are ordinary. I think they are. My parents in their 50's. A grandmother of 80. Some friends which are 30 with a very average computer literacy. Every one of them took fast with the iPad (that's how Apple is good), but no one of 'em'll fill 16gb of space.

I have a similar set of "ordinary users".

They've all had storage issues on 16GB.

Re: iPad Air

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Post by nknighthb »

freehunter wrote: post #106
stevetursi wrote: post #74

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Yes, it's 2013 and both Verizon and ATT are still charging $50/month for 5GB. Until unlimited plans at reasonable prices become available, cloud+mobile is useless to me and it'd be more affordable to store media on my device instead of streaming it.

T-Mobile may work for your use case (if you're in a coverage zone), with 5GB of their 4G and unlimited EDGE (it was good enough for the original iPhone which relied exclusively on HTML5 apps, right?) for $30/mo prepaid. I don't know how well the iPad works on T-Mobile's network though, YMMV.

Stream a couple HD movies. There goes your 5GB.

Re: iPad Air

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Post by Tyrannosaurs »

GuiA wrote: post #226
NicoJuicy wrote: post #222

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The iPad to enrich people's live... Sorry, but the iPad/tablets are mostly used for browsing, creating photos and using apps and games. That's not really "enriching" life as i see it, it's a consumer device, not a production device... If you really want to make it enriching, make it non-obtrusive. And i would feel sorry for those whose life really is enriched with a electronic device.

By your definition of "enriching", 80% of the startups discussed on HN are not enriching anyone's lives.

Just 80%? I think you're being very generous. 95%? 98%?

Re: iPad Air

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Post by m_mueller »

etchalon wrote: post #162
phaus wrote: post #23

So their new commercial for the iPad focuses on the fact that so many people use it for productivity, so why can't Apple create a decent, first-party pressure sensitive stylus, so we don't have to deal with expensive, clunky, third-party solutions.

There are quite a few third-party styli available for purchase. Apple doesn't want to include one because they don't want developers assuming the user has a stylus, and thus, crafting interfaces that require that level of precision. The iPad/iOS is about touch. If the argument is that Apple should build one, but not include it by default, specifically for people who need one, I guess the response is "Why bother?"

A stylus for a capacitive touch screen needs to be deeply integrated to work well - i.e. it needs some sensors along with the screen to anchor its position, simply because capacitive screen don't work well with pointy counterparts. That's why the stylus of MS surface is way better than any third party solution for iPad as far as I understand.

IMO Apple should integrate appropriate sensors and release an API for stylus makers or create it as an accessory themselves. I've bought two iPads since its initial release, and they work very well for me for some light browsing, but in order to integrate it into my workflow it'd have to become better at note taking.

I loved the MS Courier concept, it's too bad they instead created a solution that does everything, but nothing really well - you can either have desktop OneNote that only works with a stylus or mobile OneNote with nowhere near the features you'd need. Apple's iPad apps tend to have exactly the features you need except stylus support - so there's that.

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