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Re: Ask HN: Why the Microsoft hate?

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closed source since 1975. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.html

Microsoft was built around a BASIC interpreter coded by billg himself! But more to the point, Apple doesn't even really uphold open source values either, so regardless of whether they are right or not, it doesn't make sense to ding Microsoft and not Apple.

Re: Ask HN: Why the Microsoft hate?

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My startup friends and I here in Brisbane, Australia talk quite a bit about going to San Fran to "soak up the start-up vibe". I often joke about having the nerve to set up camp in a coffee shop there and whip out my Surface Pro, fire up visual studio, and sling some C# and see how quickly I'll get hated on. I do wonder, will that really happen? Honest question.

Not sure, but if you had a Nokia tablet instead, you might have some cute girls come up to you and say "hey that's pretty!"

Re: Ask HN: Why the Microsoft hate?

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I'm almost afraid to reply to this. It's like the hunt for Communists in the US during the cold war - ah another MS sympathizer.

MS made a lot of mistakes - so did Apple. I was an Apple tech support - it really sucked not having multitasking and dealing with so many OS issues. Now I make a living off the MS stack.

I think MS sticking with RT is a bad move - go with full Windows support. I would still say a Nexus device is probably the best bang for the buck.

In the end it's just an opinion, but you don't need to jump down a company's throat because their not the ones in vogue at the moment.

Re: Ask HN: Why the Microsoft hate?

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Flags for what type of comments? Did the comment provide constructive feedback? Or did it simply state an opinion with no support to fuel the discussion?

It's -ethical- to flag comments that are false, off-topic, or do not contribute to the discussion; not ones of differing opinion.

Re: Ask HN: Why the Microsoft hate?

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I started my career working on VB apps, and ASP then ASP.NET websites, using a Windows dev box.

After learning several OSS stacks, I have nothing but contempt for Microsoft technologies. I wouldn't say I hate MS - they are what they are - but I am certainly conditioned to be very suspicious of their offerings. I would never take a job working on a MS stack again, ever.

I currently work for a large enterprise that uses a mix of MS and OSS, and I take every chance I get to swap out the MS tech with OSS. The devs love it and it makes me happy.

Re: Ask HN: Why the Microsoft hate?

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I agree, it's just pack behavior. And no, I don't work for MS, nor have I ever. Having said that, launching the day before the iPad was bound to invite negative comparison without something really special, notwithstanding the good value proposition of this tablet. What has personally held me back is that Windows RT has nothing in particular for me because it can't run any x86 legacy apps, while surface Pro seems rath…

> What has personally held me back is that Windows RT has nothing in particular for me because it can't run any x86 legacy apps, while surface Pro seems rather expensive. I agree with that personally, but I would hope that Windows RT could grow a strong enough ecosystem that this wouldn't be a big deal. > As with Google & Android, and MS with many previous versions of Windows, this platform is poor for musicians and…

Since you work for MS Labs, I beg you to investigate the state machine possibilities of tools like Reaktor and Flowstone, which are geared towards signal processing but which are plenty versatile, and seem like they'd be ideal for touch deployment in principle. I can rant on about this at length in email if you're interested.

Re: Ask HN: Why the Microsoft hate?

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If you see a comment you think is ridiculous click "link" and you should be able to flag them. I don't think HNers in general hate MS but this community is pretty biased towards OS X and Linux, it's hard to feign interest in stuff you don't use. Engadget and The Verge are professional plagiarists, it would be bad for this community to adopt those sites as some kind of standard for tech news, and it's awesome seeing t…

I'm a technologist, and eat up everything related to OS X, Android, iOS, and so on. At home, I don't even own a PC (we have 4 macbooks, two ipads). But this Nokia tablet seems exciting, if only for the industrial design, but they also seem to have taken a lot of care in the rest of the design also.

Theverge is quite nice: they actually write decent full length articles with a graphic design that is similar to but exceeds Ars. Engadget is still useful, but theverge is my favorite. And I was blown away recently by how well Polygon was done as a gaming site. Really beautiful, with great content.

Re: Ask HN: Why the Microsoft hate?

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post #7

closed source since 1975. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/shouldbefree.html

Microsoft was built around a BASIC interpreter coded by billg himself! But more to the point, Apple doesn't even really uphold open source values either, so regardless of whether they are right or not, it doesn't make sense to ding Microsoft and not Apple.

That's true, there should be more a stronger anti-apple sentiment on this site because restricting the freedom of your users is against hacker ethics. I am only half-joking here, but I agree with the OP that flagging just because you don't like the company is unfair and, personally I just don't up-vote those submissions.
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