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Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

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Re: Apple Says New OS X ‘Mavericks’ Will Be Offered for Free

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Exactly. That's when people think, "Well, if I have to change OS anyhow..."

I change my OS every few weeks or so... Distro hopping. Or "Nixploration." OS is not necessarily tied to a single machine.

It very much is for the average home consumer. Normal users upgrade their version of windows when they buy a new computer, because the new version is what comes installed.

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I haven't used any Apple machine since 2004. Some HN'ers like Apple, so I've been kind of interested to see what Apple machines do that PC's don't. But I don't want to pay premium prices for iGoods. Does this mean I can run the new OS in a VM to check out the Apple ecosystem? Or is this only free (as in beer) to people who have an existing paid license for a previous Apple operating system?

Apple devices aren't really that overpriced. Try to get a comparable device (power, weight, battery life, slimness) for the same price and it's harder then you think. If you can find me a good alternative for a 11" macbook air for less then an macbook air I'd be delighted to hear what it is because I've been dying for a good ultralight laptop that can run ubuntu without dealing with efi/uefi/bootcamp stuff.

I've been very happy with my Samsung NP900X1B, which was much better value than an air for me at the time I bought it. (There's probably a newer equivalent model nowadays)

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For what it's worth, the 'premium prices' argument is starting to sound a little dated.

Macbook Air starts at $999. All I want to do is browse the Internet. I could buy 3 Chromebooks for the price of that Macbook Air. Or 1 Chromebook and save money.

Or you could get an iPad mini for $299.

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Macbook Air starts at $999. All I want to do is browse the Internet. I could buy 3 Chromebooks for the price of that Macbook Air. Or 1 Chromebook and save money.

I bought my current laptop in late 2011 for $750. Specs are 4 GB (which I cheaply upgraded to 8GB right away), GT 540M (1GB dedicated graphics memory), Core i7 @ 2.2 GHz, USB 3.0. Looking at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macbook_air , in terms of specs it blows away even today's Macbooks -- two years later! Moral: If you're looking at the higher end of the performance/price spectrum because you do things like gaming a…

That's absolutely not true. I regularly compile large programs (granted, not linux kernel large, but relatively large) and paly games, and my early 2011 MVP does everything I need. Try to look at a comparable quality build laptop (Lenovo Thinkpad with the same spec) and you'll see what you can pay for a windows machine.

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Damn disappointing to see I can't upgrade the Mac mini I have from ~2008. It's a Macmini2,1, but I have upgraded the ram from 500mb to 4gb (3gb addressable), the cpu to the fastest possible (2.3ghz core2), and a samsung 840 128gb ssd. The machine is a beast now, except for the fact the sound occasionally stops working (sudo killall coreaudiod!)

I understand the why - the chipset/cpu is 32bit, and Mavericks is 64-bit only. Bit of a bugger. The user won't notice though (My wife)

I'm sure the upgrade experience would be better than my Windows 8 -> Windows 8.1 experience of last week. The best way to describe that would be train wreck.

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Damn disappointing to see I can't upgrade the Mac mini I have from ~2008. It's a Macmini2,1, but I have upgraded the ram from 500mb to 4gb (3gb addressable), the cpu to the fastest possible (2.3ghz core2), and a samsung 840 128gb ssd. The machine is a beast now, except for the fact the sound occasionally stops working (sudo killall coreaudiod!) I understand the why - the chipset/cpu is 32bit, and Mavericks is 64-bit…

When I went into MSFT's Store app on my Win8 VM and installed the 8.1 upgrade, it rebooted and then went through the entire first-time setup routine. Everything it wanted, was already configured, so asking me again is just a sloppy experience!

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They may work, but they don't work just as well.

Oh yes, you're right. They don't work just as well, they work better . AirParrot has additional features like sending only one specific application window to the ATV and control over quality. Beamer lets you seamlessly stream any kind of movie format you want and also gives control over subtitles. Both work all the way back on 10.6. I don't suppose you could give me any advantages of Apple-branded AirPlay Mirroring h…

This has been discussed before.

http://arstechnica.com/apple/2012/07/mountain-lion-airplay-m...

Tried Airparrot - quality was terrible in comparison.

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OsX is not free, you still need to buy a Mac. As for MSFT , they are a software company,not sure what they can do about Windows price ,which will never be free. Want free stuff? use Linux.

Linux is not free, you still need to buy a computer.

Linus is not forcing you to buy specific hardware to get linux installed. You can't install os x without apple-produced hardware.

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I haven't used any Apple machine since 2004. Some HN'ers like Apple, so I've been kind of interested to see what Apple machines do that PC's don't. But I don't want to pay premium prices for iGoods. Does this mean I can run the new OS in a VM to check out the Apple ecosystem? Or is this only free (as in beer) to people who have an existing paid license for a previous Apple operating system?

>> so I've been kind of interested to see what Apple machines do that PC's don't.

My PC runs Ubuntu Linux and I can't think of anything I would need a Mac can do for me that my PC can't.

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They went out of their way to point out that this is a "going forward" thing, too — system software on Apple devices is free. I assume Windows 9 isn't gonna be.

I wonder how this jibes with Apple's much-derided claims that stuff like XCode had to be $5 due to accounting regulations around free upgrades. Windows 9 might be free for the same reason -- the new features are in apps and services, and the OS is a compatibility layer than needs to keep up. For example, hypothetically: Office 2014 is expensive, Win 9 is free to provide access to Office 2014 Viewer or whatever.

The accounting regs were real, but FASB changed revenue recognition principles in 2010 to allow for free releases.
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