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Re: Google announces uProxy

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> "If someone from a country with limited internet access installs uProxy, they can get a friend from the US to authorize them to surf the open web using their connection. " In effect, they would also be sending all their sensitive, potentially illegal traffic to be read and copied by the american NSA agency. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_%28surveillance_program%2... People proxying illegal traffic through the U…

While technically true "the US" here is only used as an example, I don't believe the endpoints have to be in the US (if I understand correctly any user of this extension can choose to become a proxy). An other point in the video (at around 0:50) mentions that you can select your route through trusted friends. If that's true it means that you can decide where your traffic transits. Now obviously if you use the binary…

If you don't trust Google, run it in Firefox.

Re: Google announces uProxy

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I'm interested to see if their AdWords/AdSense algos will detect uProxy and choose not to serve ads to its users. Right now, the US/UK/Canada are huge markets for Google AdWords/AdSense but most US-based companies do not have their ads shown in Latvia/Iran/Russia (just to randomly pick some faraway countries). There's a good reason - if I own a restaurant in Dallas, for example, I want people searching for "best dallas steak restaurant" to see my ad. If that starts getting shown worldwide, the CTR will plummet which would not be good for Google.

Re: Google announces uProxy

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post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you read the article? It's not a Google service. Why buy a "real" VPN subscription instead of running things through a friend, which is way more decentralized and harder to surveil en masse?

I did. I also went to the uProxy site which mentions it was seeded by Google Ideas. Also, >> One of the ways uProxy connects you through your friends, is by connecting to existing chat networks, such as Facebook or Google Hangouts. uProxy can use a chat network to discover new friends and setup peer-to-peer proxying from your friends. If a user does so, then the chat network can see that the user has uProxy installed…

.. So don't use it on hangouts and run it on Firefox. Scan the source for any "call home code."

Re: Google announces uProxy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because non-Americans still have to worry about being abducted off the street and tortured by American agents: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khaled_El-Masri

If you're worried about that, there's this much more dangerous thing called lightning that is going to freaking terrify you.

In the USSR and DDR there lived millions of people.

Not everyone was abducted, the numbers are in the thousands.

People fear lightening. We must not fear our government. Fear of the people who are supposed to represent you is not quite democracy.

That is the point of oppression. To instill fear, not bu actually abducting and torturing half the population, just many enough to get the message across.

Obey, citizen.

Re: Google announces uProxy

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post #93

If a dissident hacks into a government site or does something else like speaking out his opinion, will I get arrested for them, when I live in a neighbour country? Or even get arrested for their actions on hacking stuff? I mean the US and Europe both ban hacking and penalize it with more jail time than rape and in some cases even murder.

UProxy is a point-to-point proxy, where both sides know each other (by being buddies on the chat network) and choose to participate with one another. Don't proxy for your hacker friends.

Re: Google announces uProxy

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> "If someone from a country with limited internet access installs uProxy, they can get a friend from the US to authorize them to surf the open web using their connection. " In effect, they would also be sending all their sensitive, potentially illegal traffic to be read and copied by the american NSA agency. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_%28surveillance_program%2... People proxying illegal traffic through the U…

Can we stop every new thread on HN with NSA spy stories? The NSA can/has/is spying on you for a long time and it has nothing to do with any US company. Much of the traffic around the world (bound for the US or not) is routed through the USA due to us being such a central player, and these core routers have been tapped for a long time. It doesn't matter if you are dealing with "US company" or not.

With most threads, your request would be perfectly reasonable, but this is a technology designed specifically to keep your communications private. There aren't many threads where bringing up the NSA would be more relevant than it is here.

Re: Google announces uProxy

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post #35

> "If someone from a country with limited internet access installs uProxy, they can get a friend from the US to authorize them to surf the open web using their connection. " In effect, they would also be sending all their sensitive, potentially illegal traffic to be read and copied by the american NSA agency. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_%28surveillance_program%2... People proxying illegal traffic through the U…

> I can see CIA looking at how their propaganda are affecting foreign nations by seeing who reads it from where Interestingly, this is the second Google project on HN today that caters to people in oppressive countries. uProxy and recently announced Project Shield [1]. The major targets are Syria and Iran. Incidentally, they're also targets for the US military :) Intel from the enemy territory will certainly be of in…

The launches are coming from the Google Ideas summit, linked in the article.

Re: Google announces uProxy

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Fast forward a year, HN headline: "Google shutting down uProxy". It looks interesting and I'm sure some number of people will find it useful while it lasts.

I knew that this was going to be a comment before I even opened clicked on the link or looked at the comments. Yes, Google shouldn't have shut down Reader and now get over it.

Re: Google announces uProxy

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> "If someone from a country with limited internet access installs uProxy, they can get a friend from the US to authorize them to surf the open web using their connection. " In effect, they would also be sending all their sensitive, potentially illegal traffic to be read and copied by the american NSA agency. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_%28surveillance_program%2... People proxying illegal traffic through the U…

Can we stop every new thread on HN with NSA spy stories? The NSA can/has/is spying on you for a long time and it has nothing to do with any US company. Much of the traffic around the world (bound for the US or not) is routed through the USA due to us being such a central player, and these core routers have been tapped for a long time. It doesn't matter if you are dealing with "US company" or not.

Google is a long-time NSA collaborator. The risks of what they could share with them should always be scrutinized.

Re: Google announces uProxy

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post #24
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would somebody who lives outside of USA care about US agencies? All I want is to bypass my own country's censorship.

Don't know about you, but I'm in Australia - which is under the USA's "five eyes" program. I think it's very much my concern.

Shouldn't you be protesting the fact that your government signed a data sharing deal or are they totally helpless?
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