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Visualise the structure of a spreadsheet

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It looks really cool, I think the two tools kind of go hand in hand. Sharing sheets and understanding them.

yup. feel free to drop me an email if you want to touch base (i've just done the sign-up)

Cool. I'm chris@slateforexcel.com btw

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I've been working on this myself and would really love to get some feedback. Would this be useful for the problems you have with Excel?

it's a great idea - much better than the old built-in formula dependency tracker. definitely loving your idea! I've been in the Excel business myself for years (having worked in finance) and always love when someone comes up with a fresh tool for the mighty Excel (yeah, I know most developer's views on Excel...). I've recently started www.spreadgit.com which is a GitHub-like service for spreadsheets. looking forward…

It certainly is a good idea.

Don't mean to hijack the thread, but I've been toying with the idea of having users use a data flow diagram to structure complex spreadsheets. Still have a pre-prototype stage and I'ld love to get your expert feedback on that idea. If interested please drop me a note.

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hmm, what's wrong with uploading it? I would actually prefer the no-Addin solution: the Excel Addin 'deployment' is a bit messy (with references stuck in the Addin-manager) + no Addins in the Mac world (though I guess that >95% of Excel users are on windows)

We were definitely pursuing the add-on route. Although add-ons can be clunky we felt people would want to switch between the two views quickly and often. For example, if you make a change in the spreadsheet view you might want to see what effect that had on the tree. What do you think?

hmm, guess I got a bit ahead of myself - you are right, you wouldn't want to switch views/apps as you would indeed expect people to use it in quite a dynamic way. really looking forward to it!

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Interesting. As I understand it, you use a spreadsheet as input and then create the data flow diagram. I certainly see how seeing the data flow diagram means better clarity and error-finding. So here is a question for you? What if we take it a step further and have users actually entered their complex spreadsheets in a tidy graphical data flow diagram which mapped back?

That is where I would love to take this. I think thats a bit more of a leap for the user as it forces them to think in the flow diagram way from the very beginning. I'd really like to see how users react to building a spreadsheet from scratch in this way.

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Great idea! Do you have to upload the spreadsheet? If yes then a big downer. Better if you could release and sell as Excel Plugin

hmm, what's wrong with uploading it? I would actually prefer the no-Addin solution: the Excel Addin 'deployment' is a bit messy (with references stuck in the Addin-manager) + no Addins in the Mac world (though I guess that >95% of Excel users are on windows)

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Interesting. As I understand it, you use a spreadsheet as input and then create the data flow diagram. I certainly see how seeing the data flow diagram means better clarity and error-finding. So here is a question for you? What if we take it a step further and have users actually entered their complex spreadsheets in a tidy graphical data flow diagram which mapped back?

Like Livesheets, you mean?
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