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How to attract girls to the tech industry

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Re: How to attract girls to the tech industry

#11
When the article tries to deal with Lovelace:

> Ada Lovelace was coding in a time when few men did

Really? Even such an obtuse statement indicates a complete ignorance of what she did weakening further any point they have to make. Not helped by the fact they have not indicated the IT interests and acomplishments of the girl whom is the subject of the article. Some of the worst (Male) employees we have ever hired as developers had either 1st class BEng or even PhD level qualifications. Degree programs in IT in the UK are approaching worthless for the most part.

This article is infuriating, a complete abomination and demonstrative of everything which is wrong with the approach to girls in technology. The topic is now approaching a level of dullness that makes me wonder if anything will ever change.

Issues with the articles assume external factors actively opressing the abilities of girls. Abilities cannot be suppressed. They can only fail to exploit them in the light of other social roadblocks. There is no indication of any understanding in the article as to why girls don't pursue jobs in STEM. There is an inferrence that a patriarchy is responsible and is actively seeking their exclusion. Applications of statistics in this area fail to illuminate but at all any useful causal link. The reason being polical correctness refuses people\ who might be willing to propose logical reasons for the gap an audience due to the refusal to listen to what is perceived as mysogeny.

How many women are there in other industries who have to, on a daily basis, do highly competative problem solving. There are plenty in Science and Humanities PhD positions. How does that differ from seeking actively problem solving roles in IT?

I'm so fed up with the whole thing.

Re: How to attract girls to the tech industry

#12
The only thing an industry can do to become more attractive is to increase the wages. I hardly doubt a "makeover" or a pink keyboard will make the work more attractive. Also, the insinuation that people some how "must be lured" or even "can be lured" is rather ridiculous.

Re: How to attract girls to the tech industry

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When the article tries to deal with Lovelace: > Ada Lovelace was coding in a time when few men did Really? Even such an obtuse statement indicates a complete ignorance of what she did weakening further any point they have to make. Not helped by the fact they have not indicated the IT interests and acomplishments of the girl whom is the subject of the article. Some of the worst (Male) employees we have ever hired as d…

You employed IT grads? I haven't seen one for years. Or do you mean that you've employed CS grads only to find out their IT skills are poor?

Re: How to attract girls to the tech industry

#18
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think they're trying to interest actual girls (read "from 7 to 22") in technology and coding.

People who are 18 to 22 are not girls. They are adult women.

unless you're in your 40s. then 18-22 are still kids ("boys" and "girls"). not legally. but often maturationally (yes, I think I just made that word up).

Often 18-22 year olds are still living at home with parent(s), getting assistance from their parents/family before they strike out on their own.

Yes, legally 'adults', but not necessarily socially so.

Re: How to attract girls to the tech industry

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think they're trying to interest actual girls (read "from 7 to 22") in technology and coding.

People who are 18 to 22 are not girls. They are adult women.

Most of these adults can't even buy a beer in the US : )

Re: How to attract girls to the tech industry

#20
post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think they're trying to interest actual girls (read "from 7 to 22") in technology and coding.

People who are 18 to 22 are not girls. They are adult women.

I downvoted you for your dogmatic insistence on linguistic purity even in unjustifiable corner cases. Females who are 7-17 are not women, they are girls. So what do we call females 7-22? A weighted average (eleven under 18, five 18 and over) would bring it in for "girls," and that's just on the technical basis you're invoking.

But the truth is you don't give a shit about being technically correct (because if you did, you'd go with the weighted average). Instead, you're just hewing to linguistic exactness when it suits you---in this case, when it allows you to save face by "correcting" a poster who kindly and non-confrontationally offered an explanation for why the article title does in fact correctly use the term "girls."

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