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Re: Poll: Where are you currently living?

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Post by sjwright »

Population (in millions):

  USA	316.8
  Canada: 35.1
  Southern North America: 176.6
  Northern part of South America: ?
  Southern part of South America: ?
  ...South America: 387.4
  UK: 62.2
  Scandinavia: 25.7
  Western Europe (excl. UK): 278.7
  Eastern Europe: 176.7
  Southern Europe / Mediterranean Europe: 153.5
  Russia: 142.2
  Northern Africa: ?
  Southern Africa: ?
  ...Africa: 1032.5
  Middle East: 370.9
  India: 1210.2
  China: 1353.8
  South East Asia: 610.0
  Australia and New Zealand: 35.6
  Japan: 126.6
  South Korea: 50.2
  Other: ?

Re: Poll: Where are you currently living?

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Post by danmaz74 »

personlurking wrote: post #199
danmaz74 wrote: post #152

You can't have a "western europe excl UK" and then a "southern europe". Italy and Spain are for sure in both categories.

Don't forget Portugal! Lisbon checking in

Well of course - it's difficult to get more western Europe than Portugal ;)

Re: Poll: Where are you currently living?

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Post by danmaz74 »

sjwright wrote: post #201

Population (in millions): USA 316.8 Canada: 35.1 Southern North America: 176.6 Northern part of South America: ? Southern part of South America: ? ...South America: 387.4 UK: 62.2 Scandinavia: 25.7 Western Europe (excl. UK): 278.7 Eastern Europe: 176.7 Southern Europe / Mediterranean Europe: 153.5 Russia: 142.2 Northern Africa: ? Southern Africa: ? ...Africa: 1032.5 Middle East: 370.9 India: 1210.2 China: 1353.8 Sout…

I'm curious, which Countries did you consider for Western Europe, and Which for Southern/Mediterranean Europe?

Re: Poll: Where are you currently living?

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Post by kzrdude »

victorhn wrote: post #187
ledge wrote: post #157

I live in Phnom Penh, Cambodia. 99% of the time I have no regrets about moving here from the United States. That other 1% of the time when you are sick or require the services of the police, it's not the best place to be. My insurance plan covers an airlift to Thailand in the event of a serious emergency.

Are you the guy from Pirate Bay?

I don't think the Pirate Bay people ever lived in the USA, nor do they want to come close.

Re: Poll: Where are you currently living?

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Post by V-2 »

kutakbash wrote: post #200
V-2 wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Is Czech Republic Eastern Europe or Western Europe (since you don't offer 'Central Europe' as an option and some Czechs may be unhappy with identifying as Eastern Europeans)?" Same with Poland. The Western-Eastern distinction is an artifact of the Cold War, but it doesn't correspond well with the civilizational affiliations and historical experience of Central European nations. Eg. Poland has rich traditions of demo…

I'd say this whole regional distinctions thing is utterly mythologized and politically motivated. It's more like branding than anything tangible. No one wants to be associated with the less well off parts of the world and some want to add flair of objectivity to their purely political claims. Like current Russian and Kazakhstani govts pushing all things 'Euroasian', or German strategists inventing Mitteleuropa back t…

I rest my case as for Central Europe. The main line of division is along Roman vs. Byzantine legacy, and this point of view is not hard to defend

Of course pushing forward the category of Central Europe may stem from a variety of motivations, like some people just fearing the stigma of being "Eastern" as you say.

But this does not by itself invalidate the legitimate justifications for using the concept of Central Europe and it's certainly not enough of a reason to drop it altogether

Re: Poll: Where are you currently living?

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Post by elyobo »

sjwright wrote: post #201

Population (in millions): USA 316.8 Canada: 35.1 Southern North America: 176.6 Northern part of South America: ? Southern part of South America: ? ...South America: 387.4 UK: 62.2 Scandinavia: 25.7 Western Europe (excl. UK): 278.7 Eastern Europe: 176.7 Southern Europe / Mediterranean Europe: 153.5 Russia: 142.2 Northern Africa: ? Southern Africa: ? ...Africa: 1032.5 Middle East: 370.9 India: 1210.2 China: 1353.8 Sout…

I'm not sure where your numbers come from, but they're overestimating Australia + NZ by around a quarter.

From Wikipedia, NZ ~4.7 million, AU ~23.2 million, total ~28 million.

Re: Poll: Where are you currently living?

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Post by sjwright »

elyobo wrote: post #207
sjwright wrote: post #201

Population (in millions): USA 316.8 Canada: 35.1 Southern North America: 176.6 Northern part of South America: ? Southern part of South America: ? ...South America: 387.4 UK: 62.2 Scandinavia: 25.7 Western Europe (excl. UK): 278.7 Eastern Europe: 176.7 Southern Europe / Mediterranean Europe: 153.5 Russia: 142.2 Northern Africa: ? Southern Africa: ? ...Africa: 1032.5 Middle East: 370.9 India: 1210.2 China: 1353.8 Sout…

I'm not sure where your numbers come from, but they're overestimating Australia + NZ by around a quarter. From Wikipedia, NZ ~4.7 million, AU ~23.2 million, total ~28 million.

I used Oceania, because the poll was implied to also mean "Australasia", which is a geographically vague term, but is commonly known to be very inclusive.

Re: Poll: Where are you currently living?

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Post by sjwright »

danmaz74 wrote: post #204
sjwright wrote: post #201

Population (in millions): USA 316.8 Canada: 35.1 Southern North America: 176.6 Northern part of South America: ? Southern part of South America: ? ...South America: 387.4 UK: 62.2 Scandinavia: 25.7 Western Europe (excl. UK): 278.7 Eastern Europe: 176.7 Southern Europe / Mediterranean Europe: 153.5 Russia: 142.2 Northern Africa: ? Southern Africa: ? ...Africa: 1032.5 Middle East: 370.9 India: 1210.2 China: 1353.8 Sout…

I'm curious, which Countries did you consider for Western Europe, and Which for Southern/Mediterranean Europe?

I tried to follow Wikipedia as closely as possible, but stupidly didn't keep my workings.

My starting point was the full list for Europe. From there I split off UK, then split off Scandanavia, then split off Southern Europe, then worked out a plausible split for the remaining western and eastern. For example, Czech fell into my eastern pile, but could have easily gone the other way...

I didn't even bother trying to bisect Africa or South America, as I couldn't find any evidence for such canonical bisections.

Political geography is tedious.

Re: Poll: Where are you currently living?

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Post by zizee »

sjwright wrote: post #201

Population (in millions): USA 316.8 Canada: 35.1 Southern North America: 176.6 Northern part of South America: ? Southern part of South America: ? ...South America: 387.4 UK: 62.2 Scandinavia: 25.7 Western Europe (excl. UK): 278.7 Eastern Europe: 176.7 Southern Europe / Mediterranean Europe: 153.5 Russia: 142.2 Northern Africa: ? Southern Africa: ? ...Africa: 1032.5 Middle East: 370.9 India: 1210.2 China: 1353.8 Sout…

Population of Australia 22.68 million Population of New Zealand 4.433 million

Where did the extra 8.5 million come from?

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