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Re: Oscilloscope watch

#21
Just like a calculator watch, the form factor is too small to interact with. And the analog bandwidth is too low. And I can't think of any actual use cases for this product.

But yeah, the little kid in me wants one.

Re: Oscilloscope watch

#22
post #6

Oscilloscope Specifications: Maximum Sampling rate: 4MSPS Analog Bandwidth: ---> 200kHz Arbitrary Waveform Generator Specifications Maximum conversion rate: 1MSPS Analog Bandwidth: ---> 50kHz This is certainly not the first project in the "super miniaturized hardware tools" category, and as much as I like the idea of having a single tricorder-like device that can replace a lab full of hardware, all of the similar pro…

I'm a musician with a room full of synthesizers. This Oscilloscope is perfect for my needs.

Sometimes, you just have to stand back and think: am I criticizing this because I'm me and have a position, or because its really an issue for the wider dynamics of the target market? Fact is, a lot of nerds are going to enjoy rockin' an Oscilloscope watch - it may well just be a faddish toy - but some of us will use the hell out of the thing.

(I already have a few similar-spec'ed Oscilloscopes in the modular system. Having one on my watch is going to make it very fun to wire myself up and watch a few LFO's from afar ..)

Re: Oscilloscope watch

#24
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm thinking strictly of things like mixers and junction boxes. I take your point about DSPs and other system clocks (and am trying to figure out if this is an issue on a hybrid DSP/FPGA/discrete device right now), but in areas like live sound engineering your main enemies are things like ground loops, crosstalk between mixer channels and whatnot. These are installation issues rather than product development ones.

Seems like a portable, precision FFT analyzer would be more useful. The ability to measure frequency response, harmonics, cancellation, distortion, noise, etc. make an engineer's job so much easier. Frequency information is far more important than timing information. What benefit does an oscilloscope have over meter+ears when resolving ground loop or crosstalk issues? Time domain information doesn't seem terribly use…

Knowing whether a hum is 60Hz or not tells you whether it's a ground loop or some other problem. For crosstalk a lot of mixers have a 1khz sine tone generator. It's useful to be able to verify that you're dealing with a particular frequency. You are not always able to rely on your ears to the extent that you'd like when you're in the field, since the environment where a PA is being set up can be noisy as well.

This device has a few other tricks up its sleeve as well as a basic 'scope; it also does FFT, phase metering, and operates as a voltmeter. I'm not suggesting it's the ultimate device of its kind, just pointing out that there is a class of people for whom having this functionality in a highly portable package would in fact be handy.

Oh, and the protocol sniffer means you can test MIDI output from a synth or sequencer.

Re: Oscilloscope watch

#25
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would pay a lot of money for a miniaturized tool that took RF performance seriously. I'm sure, but how many others would, vs just using bulky equipment? I agree the analog bandwidth is quite limited here, but it's good enough for audio work, and there's a large potential market there among live sound engineers.

I don't know much about the work of sound engineers, but I'm curious, can you please describe some of the applications this device would offer to sound engineers?

Phase metering is quite important as quite a lot of audio gear can sum stereo signals to mono, which can lead to undesirable frequency cancellation and loss of signal. FFT is handy for all sorts of things, eg a high-frequency spike might indicate a blown cap in a filtering circuit.

I would not suggest that this watch replaces a proper oscilloscope for lab work. For that matter, the great majority of problems are more easily diagnosed with a computer and some decent audio editing software, which will have things like frequency plotting and phase metering built in. But it looks very handy for location work, eg there have been times when I've had to repair a cracked solder joint in a shotgun microphone in the middle of nowhere, and had no way of testing the gear I was working on before putting it back into service.

The one thing that I don't see on it that would be enormously useful (but also power hungry) is a backlight. It seems like you would end up needing to point a flashlight at it in many situations.

Re: Oscilloscope watch

#26
post #6

Oscilloscope Specifications: Maximum Sampling rate: 4MSPS Analog Bandwidth: ---> 200kHz Arbitrary Waveform Generator Specifications Maximum conversion rate: 1MSPS Analog Bandwidth: ---> 50kHz This is certainly not the first project in the "super miniaturized hardware tools" category, and as much as I like the idea of having a single tricorder-like device that can replace a lab full of hardware, all of the similar pro…

I'm a musician with a room full of synthesizers. This Oscilloscope is perfect for my needs. Sometimes, you just have to stand back and think: am I criticizing this because I'm me and have a position, or because its really an issue for the wider dynamics of the target market? Fact is, a lot of nerds are going to enjoy rockin' an Oscilloscope watch - it may well just be a faddish toy - but some of us will use the hell…

We should talk...

Re: Oscilloscope watch

#27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a musician with a room full of synthesizers. This Oscilloscope is perfect for my needs. Sometimes, you just have to stand back and think: am I criticizing this because I'm me and have a position, or because its really an issue for the wider dynamics of the target market? Fact is, a lot of nerds are going to enjoy rockin' an Oscilloscope watch - it may well just be a faddish toy - but some of us will use the hell…

We should talk...

About synthesizers and oscilloscopes? Sure thing! Whats up? :)

Re: Oscilloscope watch

#29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

About synthesizers and oscilloscopes? Sure thing! Whats up? :)

It's my thing...drop me an email, it's in my profile. If you're in the Bay area we should meet up.

I'm in Europe, but thanks for the invitation .. always nice to meet a fellow enthusiast.

Anyway, I'm a backer of this Oscilloscope watch now, I can't wait to wear it, and I'll definitely be wiring up my LFO's to the thing so that I can watch 'em while playing keys away from the modular interface. ;)

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