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Ask HN: How do I install Firefox when Windows 7 doesn't ship with IE8 ?

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Re: Ask HN: How do I install Firefox when Windows 7 doesn't ship with IE8 ?

#23
If you have an internet connection and there is no browser in your machine, here is how you can do it.

   1. Open notepad
   2. File >> Open
   3. Giv the address "http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/download.html?product=firefox-3.0.11&os=wi n&lang=en-US
" 4. After the file is open, save the file as firefox_setup.exe

Re: Ask HN: How do I install Firefox when Windows 7 doesn't ship with IE8 ?

#24

I'm assuming Windows still ships with the command-line FTP client, and ftp.mozilla.org works just as well as it ever did...

Seriously? Good luck explaining to my 80-something year old Granddad how to connect to an FTP server through the command line.

Re: Ask HN: How do I install Firefox when Windows 7 doesn't ship with IE8 ?

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post #23

If you have an internet connection and there is no browser in your machine, here is how you can do it. 1. Open notepad 2. File >> Open 3. Giv the address "http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/products/download.html?product=firefox-3.0.11&os=wi n&lang=en-US " 4. After the file is open, save the file as firefox_setup.exe

Without any browser, how can I remember that long URL, should I write it down from other computer and type all that manually?

Re: Ask HN: How do I install Firefox when Windows 7 doesn't ship with IE8 ?

#27

Software vendors (Acer, HP etc..) will most likely install an open source web browser in any shop bought computer.

Indeed, in fact they'll probably install IE8, firefox, and something else, so the end result for the consumer won't be all that different. Although I'm basically pro-regulation (that is, I think governments should be able to act on behalf of consumers when they're being given a raw deal), the EU is going overboard with this. Microsoft is not such a terrible ogre and doesn't make it difficult for me to use alternative…

It is exactly the same approach as used on other monopolists, even many that have not been shown to have abused their monopoly: e.g. imposing local loop unbundling on incumbent telcos.

Re: Ask HN: How do I install Firefox when Windows 7 doesn't ship with IE8 ?

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post #14
post #2

telnet on port 80.

Starting with Vista, Windows has not shipped with its telnet client installed.

I didn't do anything special to have telnet working on my Vista install. Maybe this is an edition thing?

Re: Ask HN: How do I install Firefox when Windows 7 doesn't ship with IE8 ?

#29
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed, in fact they'll probably install IE8, firefox, and something else, so the end result for the consumer won't be all that different. Although I'm basically pro-regulation (that is, I think governments should be able to act on behalf of consumers when they're being given a raw deal), the EU is going overboard with this. Microsoft is not such a terrible ogre and doesn't make it difficult for me to use alternative…

It is exactly the same approach as used on other monopolists, even many that have not been shown to have abused their monopoly: e.g. imposing local loop unbundling on incumbent telcos.

A reasonable point, but whereas you can go out and buy a new computer or operating system tomorrow, you can't just wire your house up to a different telco. Infrastructure is complicated. If private enterprise were the easy answer people suggest, surely we'd all be enjoying ultra-high speed fiber broadband by now.

Re: Ask HN: How do I install Firefox when Windows 7 doesn't ship with IE8 ?

#30

I'm assuming Windows still ships with the command-line FTP client, and ftp.mozilla.org works just as well as it ever did...

Nope. Vista killed that off, you now have to manually install it from the DVD.

You do not need command line, windows explorer can open ftp address.
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