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Re: What happens when you're #1 on Hacker News for a day

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Post by KimberlyJClark »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #45
itafroma wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I believe you are wrong about dismissing that top comment in the other post as snarky, negative and useless. Point of order here: he never used the word "useless". He also didn't dismiss the post for being negative (he said "I’m not against negative top comments per se but they should at least be factual"). > 1) Thai law was brought up a number of times and you do appear to be violating it. This is probably somethi…

Snark is one of the defenses we expats develop to deal with culture shock and/or adverse situations in our host country. I predict that the OP is an idealistic new comer while the top commenter is a grizzled old timer who is and will continue to be in Thailand for the long run (idealists barely last the year, at best two). I observe this happen in my host city (Beijing) often, I can tell who will last and who will ju…

my classmate's mother-in-law makes $67 an hour on the computer. She has been fired for 7 months but last month her pay check was $18297 just working on the computer for a few hours. this page ========================== http://WWW.Works23.Com

Re: What happens when you're #1 on Hacker News for a day

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Post by timhargis »

KimberlyJClark wrote: post #61
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Snark is one of the defenses we expats develop to deal with culture shock and/or adverse situations in our host country. I predict that the OP is an idealistic new comer while the top commenter is a grizzled old timer who is and will continue to be in Thailand for the long run (idealists barely last the year, at best two). I observe this happen in my host city (Beijing) often, I can tell who will last and who will ju…

my classmate's mother-in-law makes $67 an hour on the computer. She has been fired for 7 months but last month her pay check was $18297 just working on the computer for a few hours. this page ========================== http://WWW.Works23.Com

Oh please, tell us more about this fantastic opportunity...

Re: What happens when you're #1 on Hacker News for a day

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Post by dwfer55454 »

doorhammer wrote: post #55
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Snark is one of the defenses we expats develop to deal with culture shock and/or adverse situations in our host country. I predict that the OP is an idealistic new comer while the top commenter is a grizzled old timer who is and will continue to be in Thailand for the long run (idealists barely last the year, at best two). I observe this happen in my host city (Beijing) often, I can tell who will last and who will ju…

I personally don't believe that the passage of time gives one the right to condescension.

The condescension was fully justified and the commenter in question was quite accurate. As yet another jaded expat who has lived in Thailand for ~8 years, and initially arrived as a naive, idealistic backpacker, I can only agree with his comments. On the "4 Stages of Competence" scale, the OP is at stage 1.

Re: What happens when you're #1 on Hacker News for a day

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Post by dwfer55454 »

KimberlyJClark wrote: post #61
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Snark is one of the defenses we expats develop to deal with culture shock and/or adverse situations in our host country. I predict that the OP is an idealistic new comer while the top commenter is a grizzled old timer who is and will continue to be in Thailand for the long run (idealists barely last the year, at best two). I observe this happen in my host city (Beijing) often, I can tell who will last and who will ju…

my classmate's mother-in-law makes $67 an hour on the computer. She has been fired for 7 months but last month her pay check was $18297 just working on the computer for a few hours. this page ========================== http://WWW.Works23.Com

This proposition is roughly as sophisticated as the OPs views on on the Utopian Kingdom of Thailand.

Re: What happens when you're #1 on Hacker News for a day

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Post by lelandbatey »

pieterhg wrote: post #38
Avalaxy wrote: post #35

Hacker News is strange... Post that describe a product that was built in a weekend manage to reach #1 all the time, but when I submit my project that I've been working on for more than a month, everyone collectively ignores is, and it receives 0 upvotes.

You might be suffering from the fact that HN seems predominantly OSX-based and your app is for Windows 8. From my stats, only 1/5 of HN is on Windows.

That's actually very interesting. Do your stats tell you what portion are on Linux?

Re: What happens when you're #1 on Hacker News for a day

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Post by GhotiFish »

Systemic33 wrote: post #12
clamprecht wrote: post #8

Next week: What happens when your follow-up to being #1 on Hacker News ends up being #1 on Hacker News.

Also featuring a snarky comment, but now about how the top comment isn't snarky. This is so meta.

Well no one was gonna make the top comment snarky after he complained about how the top stories in Hacker News always have snarky comments. That's just letting him win.

Re: What happens when you're #1 on Hacker News for a day

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Post by andyakb »

phaus wrote: post #36
itafroma wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's somewhat apt that a snarky, non-factual comment attacking the author like this has risen to the top once again. > One of the annoying parts of this article was that the author dismissed the comment as "non-factual" without providing any evidence or explanation. He didn't dismiss the comment as non-factual without providing any evidence or explanation. If read carefully, he: * stated the other commenters called i…

The original comment wasn't attacking the author, it was simply stating that while many people seemed excited at the prospect of flying off to Thailand (one person even emailed the author after booking tickets) that they should slow down and consider the expenses and lifestyle changes involved. His response was clearly intended to be humorous, but that doesn't mean that it was intended to reflect negatively on the au…

His experience was not that Thailand is an expensive place to live, his experience was that Bangkok _can_ be an expensive place to live

Re: What happens when you're #1 on Hacker News for a day

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Post by doorhammer »

seanmcdirmid wrote: post #59
doorhammer wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I personally don't believe that the passage of time gives one the right to condescension.

When you have a bunch of idealistic yelling "come here, its perfect," you can't help but feel irked by it. But I think you are right, people should learn on their own; wisdom can't easily be transferred.

I am completely on board with pointing out where a blog post or comment went wrong. In this case, I'm even fine with saying that the post sounds idealistic. I just still think you can reply with a civil critique that at least tries to sound a little more objective and a little less vitriolic.

Reply with information, sources, or personal experiences, and try to put them out there with a little less venom. I get that it takes more time, and no one can expect that from everyone, but if the goal really is to educate and transfer wisdom, there has to be an understanding that it's not easy to do that and that couching the rhetoric with sarcasm is antithetical to the cause.

When I read the comments I want information and opinions. I don't want to have to contend with aggression and condescension.

I know that's all a bit starry eyed, and that there are few things that are absolute, this among them, but by and large that's how I feel about this sort of thing.

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