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Google shares hit $1,000 after strong earnings

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Re: Google shares hit $1,000 after strong earnings

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Share price is relatively meaningless. It needs to be paired to total shares outstanding. It's arbitrary by itself because it's a function of shares outstanding and total market value, one of which the company can (relatively easily) control via stock splits.

As far as I can see GOOG has never split?

Re: Google shares hit $1,000 after strong earnings

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I performed your experiment and it didn't seem to match your conclusions. My search was: jwt web toolkit The search page itself had no Google ads on it. The top link was the homepage for the toolkit project. There were no ad links on the page. The second and third links were for wikipedia, which contained no Google ads. The fourth link did have Google ads on it. The fifth and sixth lengths did not. The seventh link d…

You really took an extreme here. Those queries are so far from the mainstream that the fact that you don't see ads for those keywords doesn't invalidate your parent. Think outside of those niche queries to realize what a more traditional user sees. A query like "LA Car Rental" will give you an idea of what the parent post describes. If you want to stick closer to the tech niche, try "build iphone app". Even the query…

What should the SERP for "LA Car Rental" contain? If that's all you typed, what is Google to suppose you want?

Assuming you don't actually want to rent a car in Los Angeles (or maybe if you do), you will get much more entertaining results by adding a little qualification, e.g., "LA Car Rental scams".

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I am very honestly interested in these issues, and in the past HN has been a great source of queries that fail in interesting ways, which is why I keep posting this request. On "html title tag" what do you want to know about it that the w3schools result at 1 doesn't give you? I know you may not like the site in general, but is there more to a title tag than that?

It includes no link to normative documentation, for one, but this isn't one of the most egregious examples of w3schools sitting at the top of search results when it provides absolutely terrible (either wrong, or completely useless) information. A better example is: "html iframe element". Go ahead and look. What's more interesting here is that if you modify this query to "html iframe element scripting" the top 3 resul…

Thanks for following up with this. There's a real bug here that I'm passing along. Unfortunately, I can't share any of the details, so this will be a bit unsatisfying, but your hunch was correct, there is something wrong going on there.

Re: Google shares hit $1,000 after strong earnings

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Google finance is one of those apps that seems to just work, but if you try to actually use it you keep hitting bugs. My latest bug is that it thinks UUU should redirect to UUU.TO I keep end up going and using yahoo finance for quick things, what about you guys?

For me Google does indeed return Uranium One, Inc.(TSE:UUU). WolframAlpha on the other hand interprets the query correctly and provides sensible alternatives: Assuming "UUU" is a financial entity | Use as an airport instead Assuming AMEX:UUU | Use ZA:UUU instead

For me, Google also returned Uranium One, trading on the Toronto Exchange.

However, Yahoo Finance showed Universal Security Instruments trading in New York, Uranium One in Toronto, and some wireless company trading on six different exchanges. The only symbol without a dot qualifier was the one for Universal Security Instruments.

Re: Google shares hit $1,000 after strong earnings

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> On my 26" display I have almost never seen ads taking up all the space It depends what you search for. If you search for something Google can monetize, like this search for sofas http://i.imgur.com/KAZ6zuq.jpg then little room is left for "normal" results. But if you search for something non-monetizable, of course less ads will show up.

Is there just one normal result there on that entire screen? Ouch.

It's because the query is terrible. I mean, do you want to see pictures of sofas, buy one or what?

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On my 26" display I have almost never seen ads taking up all the space. In fact most of the time, there is one or two ads at the top and rest 80% of the space if organic search results. People cherry pick examples to show how bad ads are but in general it's not true. So, no, ranking is still critical, well and alive with good algorithms. Current revenue increase is because of YouTube's contribution that's finally hap…

> On my 26" display I have almost never seen ads taking up all the space It depends what you search for. If you search for something Google can monetize, like this search for sofas http://i.imgur.com/KAZ6zuq.jpg then little room is left for "normal" results. But if you search for something non-monetizable, of course less ads will show up.

It wouldn't surprise me if most of the people who do a search for "sofas" want to browse shopping websites for sofas. The naturally monetizable searches are going to be searches that users don't mind being monetized.

Google probably has teams full of people figuring out that sort of thing. The problem with maximizing revenue is it annoys people, so if you can figure out how to selectively maximize revenue when it doesn't annoy people...

Re: Google shares hit $1,000 after strong earnings

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I performed your experiment and it didn't seem to match your conclusions. My search was: jwt web toolkit The search page itself had no Google ads on it. The top link was the homepage for the toolkit project. There were no ad links on the page. The second and third links were for wikipedia, which contained no Google ads. The fourth link did have Google ads on it. The fifth and sixth lengths did not. The seventh link d…

"jwt web toolkit" and "neutron spin echo" are your best examples of results that might contain ads? How about "playstation 4" for example?

Those weren't my best examples of pages that might contain ads. They were my last two Google searches. If was I looking for ads, I'd probably search of acai berry or something similar. However, I had understood the original complain to be that you're assaulted with Google ads on all searches, not just the ones where you're intentionally looking for ads.

I guess the main place where I was unfair to the parent was his comment that not recognizing his comment that:

>There is no longer a big push for 'finding things on the web' which was the appeal of early search engines, now the bulk of the web use search as their portal to a giant reference library and product catalog.

I do use it as a reference library, but almost never as a product catalog. I imagine that, if I used Google to search for things to buy, there would be far more ads, but that forms a negligible part of my internet usage.

Re: Google shares hit $1,000 after strong earnings

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> On my 26" display I have almost never seen ads taking up all the space It depends what you search for. If you search for something Google can monetize, like this search for sofas http://i.imgur.com/KAZ6zuq.jpg then little room is left for "normal" results. But if you search for something non-monetizable, of course less ads will show up.

Is there just one normal result there on that entire screen? Ouch.

Only one normal, but the maps and shopping that take up most of the space are still organic results, and probably more useful than the 'normal' ones.

Re: Google shares hit $1,000 after strong earnings

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> Google search has gotten worse and worse lately, forcing me on to other search engines with worse UIs just so that I can get useful results Can you give a few example queries?

These days I find Google is good for finding things you already know but don't remember. e.g. Number to my favorite Thai restaurant. But has become worse for finding things you don't know. I encounter this a lot when Im trying to find information related to my work but am not knowledgeable enough to narrow my keywords. Mainly programming or server related info....

Could you give an example query, and the non-Google search engine that gives better results?
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